Should I Quit Steemit? There Really Is No Point To Post Here Right Now


So I posted 2 high quality SEO post for new steem and they are being downvoted or ignored. These were posted on hubpages and I deleted them to bring them there. These were picked by their editors are high quality and my wok there gets edited by their team.

On one I tried a bot just so I can make some money and the other got like .40 cents. The bot got downvoted for no reason even though it only made me 4 steem. I have over 4.5k followers, get 70 plus organic likes, been here for over 2 years, do SEO work and have been paid high rates for my work. Is there no reason for me to use steem anymore? If I can't make it on here how will any new user have a chance?

Please let me know and I will switch to other sites and communities and maybe sell my steem? Or wait for SMTs? What should I do I am asking the community.

Here are the links:

https://goldvoice.club/steem/@whatageek/free-ways-to-make-your-article-look-more-professional-for-beginners

https://goldvoice.club/steem/@whatageek/why-is-blockchain-and-cryptocurrency-a-big-deal-digital-scarcity-and-trust

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The recent changes are all over the place at the moment. I think it all needs some time to settle in. I wouldn’t take downvotes personally as many are finding this new tools more fun that upvotes; I still struggle to downvote as ignoring is just as good in my mind. Proof of Brain still has a long way to go! Hang in there!

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15.09.2019 16:24
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Thanks but I don't like the direction we are heading. I've been paid well for my work and I'm not going to post on a site for pennies. Or worse spend my steem to get seen and get downvoted. It is not a good environment for content creators or new users. How can we recruit anyone if you need 200k steem to participate?
I wish you the best

15.09.2019 16:27
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Very true @newageinv

We can only hope that current "hype" to use downvotes will die down and people will realize that downvote abuse is also damaging this platform.

Yours,
Piotr

15.09.2019 19:48
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It is those 70 organic upvotes that you must focus upon. Gold.

For now, everyone has been given a gun and have become votebot sheriffs. You are just trying and learning the new steem which might be hard for a big veteran like yourself who has done so well on old steem forks. If I recall correctly, you took a little bit of a break as did what would have been the last generation you had so much support from. Still having 70 active folks is a boon and you just have to build that up again with consistent good content we have all known from you forever.

You are still one of my 2 favourite geeks and that has to be worth something? ;) Hell, I haven't scored $8+ on a post in so many months I don't even remember the last time.

Maybe keep going, undelegate some of that huge actnearn delegation and bolster your network with support for some smaller/dedicated/growing content? Curation will pay someone like you so much more with that awesome stake.

I want you here for sure.

15.09.2019 16:33
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Thanks you are one of my favourites here as well :)
unfortunately I'm at a stage in my life where I need the money and if I can't make content for a site that doesn't pay. Especially when I get paid for my work elsewhere.

If you want me to be blunt there is no point to post quality here or build a following. You need 200k of steem to make moeny or be upvoted by those who do. Nothing else matters on this site and it is going to push away a lot of users.

15.09.2019 16:39
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IT is a strange time indeed. You and I are in different places asking the same question. I think the difference is I have never had the stake I need and won't stop til I do. You are already one of the celebrities and heavy hitters experiencing a depression in income due to the depression in value of STEEM along with the change in curation and relative changing of the guard. I am stacking with no regard to the current price of steem and have never counted on STEEM for any income.

You definitely know more than I do and have your steem empire for very good reasons. I am trying to think of what to say to help keep you here. I would explore other places that will give you immediate $ for your awesome content and let us know if it is out there! ;)

Otherwise, alter tactics a little, work your stake, delegations and network. You obviously have a lot more to gain than I do but I feel it is the marathon mentality that has to take precedence as very little short term money can be made until the dead cat bounces.

As for new folks, the proposition of making $.01 on content that made $0 on conventional social media will bring them here especially with a little more friendly on-boarding process.

Love the discussion and perspective.

15.09.2019 17:05
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I don't know, I think this system is gonna fail and SMTs are the only chance to fix it.

Case in point look at our Alexa rating.

I'm already switching to actnearn and sportstalk. I hope you join me there. I'll be looking for new ones too.

15.09.2019 17:09
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For sure man. I am on both of those and investigating a few of the other DAPPS as well. I am liking Marlians.com and Palnet.io as alteratives to steem and creativecoin for art, sportstalk for my sports stuff and have always been an actifit guy (usually with low step count except for yesterday!)

I appreciate having an ally with the motivation and knowledge you have. Kinda cool how the steem blockchain was built for being able to build and leverage that as well.

15.09.2019 18:21
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Solid comment @zekepickleman

15.09.2019 19:49
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Man We are all facing it, if the content is good then it will get traction and down votes can't be ,much worse, but using a lot of steem just for promotion isn't that good either. idk where are we going as i'm not a much tech or person with understanding how this all works. But we do hope the new changes will bring betterment.
There are a lot to do on steem just except posting like Splinterlands (aka Steemmonsters) project which gives minnows and whales a chance to enjoy and earn also.
There are also many other good projects but we all need to do our part to make it better.

So before leaving just think what have you done for the platform except earning some steem.

15.09.2019 16:36
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Thanks for the response.
The platform has been here for years and they don't make decisions for the content creators. The platform is built for devs at the moment.

15.09.2019 16:42
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I do agree that devs do have quite a huge possibility of growing here than a normal person.
I'd suggest exploring some communities/tribes like neoxian, palnet, spt and there are many. There has been a DEX Steem-Engine. So exploring them would be a good idea until SMT comes out.

15.09.2019 16:47
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I have there are 2 i use and might switch to them fully.

15.09.2019 16:52
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ignore bro and wait for smt .. i am also waiting for smt

15.09.2019 16:39
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SMT is the only hope at this moment. We need to make a blogging token on here and make a new system.

15.09.2019 16:40
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Hey bud. I'm glad you're here. Having said that I understand your question: your time is worth something.

I hope you stay.

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15.09.2019 16:44
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Thanks man, but I really can't at this time. If I write 700 word plus articles that can trend on Google and make nothing for them there really isn't a point to be here.

15.09.2019 16:45
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Unfortunately I feel the same. Some people here are getting more earnings on some low posts but good ones are often ignored.

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15.09.2019 16:53
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I'm not gonna hate on anyone doing well but I agree the system does not work. You need 100k plus steem or to know someone with 100k plus steem who will like your post. It is becoming a closed off community.

15.09.2019 16:55
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Yeah, expecting to scratch ones back in return lol.

15.09.2019 16:57
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Ok I like your posts and every now and then I read them.

But if you say "So I posted 2 high quality SEO post for new steem and they are being downvoted or ignored."

Who are you to say what's an high quality post ? I mean I haven't looked at those posts that you did, but still people have a different taste of quality ya'know.

Also if someone is downvoting your posts they clearly don't like something that you are doing, and that's their choice to do so.

And if your posts get ignored, then clearly they are not such high quality posts as you claim them to be.

Btw don't think I am just trying to hate, I actually like your content and I read and upvote most of them.

15.09.2019 16:57
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I get what you're saying @tsnaks but it's a bigger problem than these posts may not be good enough.
Plus I am a professional in my field so I can judge with some accuracy and have years of experience here.
The system isn't set up to encourage quality work that is SEO friendly or brings in people it. It is set up to revolve around 100k plus users. And more power to them but it is hurting the growth of steem.

15.09.2019 17:01
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If you are thinking about not posting, Maybe make use of your Steem power by following a trail. Or consider contributing to something new to provide for times like this in later times.

15.09.2019 17:09
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I might. Right now I am delegating it to new steem engine tribes and building there.

15.09.2019 17:11
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Excuse the delay in this reply. I think the biggest growth is still in the posting as compared to the curating.

I do see that in time it will be other things we post for and not so much the Steem reward. The Steem reward is going to dwindle that even those whales that are there now, will not find it viable reward wise from the Steem chain. Simply because of the division of the reward pool in relation to powered up Steem.

Right now with the low price on Steem you gain more steem back in reward than you would if Steem was worth one dollar. Accumulating this Steem now offers greater advantages for later. It is later you really want to have the Steem.

If you are only accumulating Steem when the price is high, it will take longer to reach a powered up asset that will benefit you.

Bottom line:
Regardless of the choices those with the power make for us, If we stop they continue to make those choices for everyone, If we carry on and combine our efforts, we grow stronger and gain a voice to speak up for us.

Keep posting even it is only half hearted posts.

22.09.2019 12:02
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I say stay post maybe once or twice a week. But don’t leave entirely.

I know this place has become a war zone with all the free down vote power but Keep in mind it was a lot worse before even with .07 Steem you can make a nice stack.

15.09.2019 17:21
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Thanks for the response.
I'm probably going to switch to steem engine sites if anything.
It's not about the war zone (though that is bad too) it is there is 0 incentive to post quality work here. I can post a 2,000 word article or a quick paragraph and it will do the same.

15.09.2019 17:26
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No I get you it’s like this even in the real world you kinda need to “make” friends with the big folks here so much talk about curation that curation no just means circle jerk.

Find and vote the post that will have the most votes for the most bang for your vote.

Curation is a myth and will always be. Considering the whales will always vote the same people and will continue to do so.

Even if it’s just a meme about some stupid thing.

But shit they will down vote any post that “they” are think is not worthy of $4 but it’s okay for a post with $100 taking about a meme or something other thing. Because it’s called abuse.....

One thing to always remember money attracts money not matter the person saying different.

15.09.2019 17:30
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yep

The problem is it is hurting steem and steemit. If we are not encouraging new content creators or SEO work that brings in people we will not grow.

Have you seen our Alexa rating for web traffic, we are going down steadily.

15.09.2019 17:35
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Stay on @whatageek... Did you say Hubpages? I am there too. Do you go by the same name there? I am Savio Dawson over there.

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15.09.2019 19:22
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Dear @whatageek

You've brought so many valid points. Just few days ago I wrote open letter to large stake holders to be mindful with their downvotes and basically I asked them to think before they use that tool, plus to write a comment why author received flag.

I kind of got mass-downvoted and my publication "dissapeared" from feed. It took me a while to ask few friends for support and with their help my publication became visible as well.

If I can't make it on here how will any new user have a chance?

We can only hope that current "hype" to use downvotes will die down and people will realize that downvote abuse is also damaging this platform.

I only have around 25k SP, however I upvoted all your recent posts to show my little support. Don't quit buddy. There are still many people worth collaborating with on Steemit.

Yours,
Piotr

15.09.2019 19:47
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Thank you for the support :)

There are a lot of great people on here but the system, as is, doesn't work. It's not only the downvotes it is there is zero incentive to post quality here as you get rewarded the same no matter what. I can write a long high quality article or a short quick one and they do the same.

17.09.2019 17:04
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People should avoid using bidbots until there is a consensus on their use. My reading habits have changed because now I'm reading about Steem a lot. Eventually I will get back to consuming quality.

Don't quit after two bad posts. Maybe divide the large ones up into a miniseries.

I like your posts and would hate to see you leave.

15.09.2019 22:26
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The problem is here every person have own definition of quality post that's why they are downvoting you even you written very good post which can help steemit to gain more visitors. one of my friend also get downvotes even she written seo friendly + quality post with low competition and high traffic keywords. And it was about technology. and she get downvotes by some so called spam cleaners (whales). they prove your mistake even you don't does any mistake. They just want to downvote anyway. They are feeling jealous to seeing your reward.

16.09.2019 02:41
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Hey man, been down this road many times. Is Steemit worth my time in terms of money? And to be honest I don't think so, at least not the writing part. Like you said, it is quite a messed up system and I don't see any improvements in the short run. That being said, I gave up on writing to earn on Steemit a long time ago and I think everyone should. I only write when I want to talk about something that I am really excited about and I don't care if I 'make' any money anymore. It is a nice bonus of course, but not necessary at all. I'd rather get some sincere comments. In my opinion communities are the only way to go.

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25.09.2019 17:30
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