An Open Letter to the Community - HF22.5


An Open Letter to the Community

On February 22, 2020, Steem Witnesses launched Soft Fork 22.2, with the sole intent to freeze the original stakes owned by Steemit, Inc.

Originally, as the core development team behind the Steem blockchain and key contributor to the ecosystem, Steemit used their stake for continued development of the Steem blockchain, onboarding users, and not voting for witnesses. The TRON Foundation is committed to add value and grow the Steem ecosystem and intends to use part of the Steemit stake for such executions. With that in mind, on February 13th, both TRON and Steemit planned to meet to discuss the future road map, with respect of the Steem community. Unfortunately, the Witnesses’ decision created a need to reclaim the stake and vote in new witnesses to usher in new policies for a healthier ecosystem and community.

Soft Fork 22.2 was maliciously structured, intending to freeze a handful of very targeted accounts and taking away their rights and possession to their owned asset, and may be deemed illegal and criminal. The group behind this could essentially do this kind of attack to any Steem community member, on any terms they want. They even threatened to hard fork, and nullify all existing STEEM token, putting every good STEEM holder, developer and community interest at danger. This is very much against every aspect of the original purpose of decentralization and the core value of the Steem blockchain and community. We can’t let it happen.

On March 2, 2020, Steemit regained the staked accounts, so as to course correct the hostile behavior led by a small group of people, and resume the order of the community.

Commitment to the Community

  • The Steem blockchain will not be abandoned or merged to TRON unless the community decides so.
  • Deploy in the next Hard Fork as soon as possible to reduce power down time to 1-3 days in alignment to other mainstream blockchains, while open for discussion for better economic implications.
  • For the next 4-6 weeks, the Steemit team will be using the voting rights to resume the order of the community while having an open channel for meeting community members and Witnesses. The goal is to protect the Steem blockchain from bad actors, add transparency, and receive community suggestions and advice.
  • After the 4-6 weeks period, the Steemit team will give the governance back to the community when it’s back in order and mutual agreement.

h1>Product Roadmap

The Steemit team had a very productive and exciting conversation with TRON on the future roadmap and we can’t wait to share this with everyone. The following features are what we will be focusing on:

  • Maintain Steem blockchain running in parallel with TRON
  • Launch Smart Media Tokens
  • Launch Cross Chain Atomic Swaps
  • Improve Overall Steemit.com User Experience And Onboard More Users

Smart Media Tokens (SMTs)

SMTs are on our public testnet. We have GitHub testing issues created that once completed will ensure confidence in the release.

Alongside the SMT release is the SMT Wizard, a simple front end for creating SMTs, and client libraries. Client library work is mostly done except for small changes being made to the protocol during testing and is awaiting testing.

Cross Chain Atomic Swaps (CCAS)

CCAS will use a combination of Hashed Timelocked Contracts (HTLC) and Header Only Verification (HOV) to seamlessly move tokens (STEEM, TRC-20s, and SMTs) between TRON and Steem.

Steemit.com User Experience Improvements

Steemit.com is an opportunity to onboard massive numbers of users into our ecosystem through a social network / viral media model, now with TRON’s ecosystem and resources, this goal is more achievable than ever.

We are on target for feature parity with reddit.com. With communities core launched, we are very close to this goal. The remaining tasks are around onboarding, including an invite system for new accounts, and optimizing content discovery.

Specifically, our primary goal is to emphasize the organic and sustainable models for growth that Steemit.com enables. We plan on doing this by:

  • Lowering the barriers to entry by streamlining the signup and first-use experience on steemit.com and on the Steem blockchain.
  • Contributing to the quality and authenticity of the user base by implementing an invite / referral signup system.
  • Enhancing the quality of user experience on Steemit.com by removing ads, optimizing the front page, making the rewards system easy to use through browser extensions, and integrating the wallet with the main site.
    Enhancing the mobile experience.

More Rewards to Witnesses

Community is the core to the Steem ecosystem, and Witnesses should earn rewards accordingly given how important their roles are. We will come up with a plan to reward Witnesses privileges in Steemit like staking rewards.

More Users

TRON is known for its thriving ecosystem, and now Steemit has access to TRON’s active 15 million user community, a distribution network of over 600 million DAU, meanwhile leveraging TRON’s powerful marketing resources as well as some top industry aders.

More Content

A social network without content won’t go far. Steemit.com has a perfect foundation and we will reward more to the content creators and/or curators to feed the users.

Morere Development

More developer support will be provided. Not only do we have access to more engineer support, but also we can run more hackathons and devote more capital to support the development of community projects.

More Liquidity

We’ll be learning a lot from TRON’s team on how to build a healthy exchange relationship and we’ll be having more conversations with exchanges to learn the best way to get listed and have more trading pairs.

A Brighter Future

Steemit and the Steem community is one of a kind within the current blockchain landscape. It had its own history, but now with TRON’s resources and ecosystem behind it, it’s time to course correct and build a healthier and thriving ecosystem around this dynamic community.

This will be nothing but an exciting future.

The Steemit Team


Comments 918


Where can we see the code for HF22.5 ?

02.03.2020 10:36
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You can't. Not only is it centralized it is closed source and owned by the Chinese government

02.03.2020 11:32
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YEP!
antimalware.news-Trojan-horse.jpg

02.03.2020 13:29
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I guess the code is not open anymore as the chain is not decentralized anymore. :)

02.03.2020 11:33
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Full support! Where is the code

02.03.2020 12:00
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02.03.2020 13:26
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Noticed only the "new" witnesses have thee 22.5 code, all at the top, cuddly cozy little spot.

Devil is always in the details....

02.03.2020 12:05
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Steem Soft Fork 0.22.5 is available now on github: https://github.com/steemit/steem/pull/3618

02.03.2020 12:19
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Thanks for killing Steem @ben, great job!

02.03.2020 13:19
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You mean @ned...

02.03.2020 14:35
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02.03.2020 13:24
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You re the only bad actor here, you've just centralized a blockchain, using exchanges to make a hostile takeover.

02.03.2020 10:36
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How is this different from what they did to steemit? Freezing accounts who should never been frozen in the first place.

02.03.2020 12:18
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There was a verbal contract in place that the ninja-mined stake would not be used to vote in witnesses with. Are you just a Justin Sun troll or are you really absolutely clueless about all the nuances involved?

Quit spreading lies, misinformation and disinformation in these comments!
I just read every one of them from newest to oldest (all 200 and something when I started) on this post and that is your consistent theme.

02.03.2020 13:11
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YOU HAVE MADE A BIG MISTAKE!!!

STOP IMMEDIATELY JUSTIN!!!

Do you really think you can take over this chain??? Don’t be stupid!!
OMG!!!

Now we will wipe out your stakes for sure!!!

02.03.2020 10:37
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I understand your shock, I'm surprised as well, but the plan you've just stated won't help in anything but further escalating the conflict.

02.03.2020 11:37
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I didn’t state any plan. I am not a plan stater or executer. Just super disappointed.

02.03.2020 11:39
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I'm referring to "Now we will wipe out your stakes for sure!!!". That's what they were afraid of. That's a pretty hefty amount of money, and I'm sure the now-main-investor wasn't happy about losing control over this pool of money. IF the wittnesses were clear about their intents and IF they were super-transparent that they absolutely will not erase it, then maybe today's takeover weren't happening. Just maybe. But I'm sure that agitating the crowd to erase those funds will not make the situation lighter. That's all what I wanted to say.

02.03.2020 12:01
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I am pretty sure we will end up with two chains now. 100% centralizing the chain was not the way to go.

At this point Justin is worthless in the blockchain space. Tron will tank after these actions. What a scammer!

02.03.2020 12:05
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Yup. Everything looks like this is going to happen. Especially 100% wittness pool + 24h powerdown. I'm actually pretty surprised that it's 24h, not 1 minute or "immediate". I wonder why did they even considering leaving any delay. But, we'll see. There's some slight chance that this will actually be positive. Wanna a lotto ticket, anyone?

02.03.2020 12:10
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What do you mean 24hr power-down? I just tried, it is still 13 weeks. or is it only for their accounts?

02.03.2020 12:16
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In this article under which we're commenting now (https://steempeak.com/@steemitblog/an-open-letter-to-the-community-hf22-5) there is a note in "Commitment to the Community" stating that they are going to reduce the power-down time to 24h. Now this article has been edited and the same note states

Deploy in the next Hard Fork as soon as possible to reduce power down time to 1-3 days in alignment to other mainstream blockchains, while open for discussion for better economic implications.

They changed 24h to 1-3 days, probably it sounds now less outrageous :)

02.03.2020 12:25
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Ok, thanks.

02.03.2020 12:27
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it should have been done a long time ago and restore SBD settlement in STEEM after 24h, as it used to be

02.03.2020 14:19
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Further escalating what??? He already took over the chain. Its like i beat you with a bat and someone comes in and tell you: "Hey dont be mad, youll further escalate the situation".
Its already escalated dumbass

02.03.2020 11:49
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If you are lying on the floor bleeding becuase you just got your shit beaten out of you, will you further shake your fists at the attackers? That's how you get killed IRL by an angry mob. It works only on the movies where some superhero in a plastic suit may rescue you and congratulate you your courage in dire times. I absolutely agree that it's just about as escalated as it could ever be. But will shouting empty threats help in anything? If I shout Im gonna erase them all, will that fix anything? If we all shout this, will that fix anything? The best we can do now is to either GTFO to another medium/chain so they loose all their customers and momentum, or to somehow get it all on a more diplomatic/al way instead of kicking around and stealing candies one from each other.

02.03.2020 12:06
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Youre already dead...

02.03.2020 12:09
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Thanks for your quick explanation, I was just packing up my stuff. Let's hope things go well from now on. :)

02.03.2020 10:37
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you just basically did the same thing... dpos in action :) now we have full decentralization :D so much fun :)

02.03.2020 10:39
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So basically you hostile takeover Steem's governance claiming it's because you're striving for decentralization, and yet you do it by centralizing governance by voting the top 20 witnesses with one super powered up account.

But screw the 4 years and thousands of witness votes from the community that's been here every day for years, right?

02.03.2020 10:40
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And the fucking exchanges used customer funds! Its beyond unethical.

02.03.2020 10:51
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you know the old saying... not your keys not your coins.

02.03.2020 10:56
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Not long ago I found this brillant operation in steem docs: https://developers.steem.io/apidefinitions/#broadcast_ops_decline_voting_rights - the community should have required any exchange to do precisely that on their technical accounts, so such things cannot happen.. too bad I learned about that op a week ago and I myself didn't consider the exchanges when SF was being prepared :|

02.03.2020 11:42
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AIUI, that op was explicitly created to render whale stake nonvoting to be able to remove the centralization of power risk to the chain. Today, that risk became non-theoretical. (That's actually also a pun. Hi @ben!)

02.03.2020 13:25
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AIUI: Exactly. Today: actually, I'd say it also prooved that this op was very much needed, and very much forgotten, and probably it's mostly rendered useless now :)

02.03.2020 13:38
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Buy more STEEM and vote for your witness. It's really that simple! STEEM was DPOS from the beginning.

02.03.2020 11:27
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I'm kind of happy they showed their hand and that the soft fork happened. We had till the town hall to discuss all of this and they pulled a fast one. There's not going to be discussions, just dictating.

02.03.2020 11:30
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I initially thought that the supposed 'town hall' was just a tactic to delay the valid witnesses while they re-grouped and implemented a takeover. Sadly I was correct.

02.03.2020 13:06
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I honestly didn't think that lol how naive I was, here I was thinking okay we can now bring parties to the table but it looks like we're as divided as ever. I wonder if any of the witnesses will stick around for the great handing back of the chain

02.03.2020 13:44
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I doubt there will be any 'handing back' Justin Sun did the same thing to the Tron blockchain recently (with the aide of Binance) and has not 'handed it back' either.

02.03.2020 13:52
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I admit I know zero about Tron and never been interested in it. I don't get why people like these want to get into decentralised projects? Why not focus on something you can control then if thats what you want.

02.03.2020 14:04
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I think that calling something 'decentralized' has marketing appeal for someone only interested in making money.

Perhaps also Mr. Sun has control issues and can never quite deal with a truly decentralized platform but likes to be looked upon as a pioneer in the field for more complicated and perhaps narcissistic/megalomaniac reasons.

02.03.2020 14:11
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I think you're spot on there its more about the narrative and selling people on the idea and then obfuscating the implementation like oh we're not as shit as banks but low key we are exactly the same. Lets not forget the VC money Justin throws around naturally comes with conditions

02.03.2020 14:16
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Indeed!

When you look at the comments i this posts you can see that there is an obvious play being made to control the narrative.

I would also say 'to save face' but obviously @justinsunsteemit does not have any 'face' to save to begin with.

02.03.2020 14:25
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Manipulators see lotsa potential victims when looking at something decentralized. It's what they do for a living.

03.03.2020 03:30
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02.03.2020 13:26
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Is time to grow in other decentralized social networks such as creary.net. Witnesses! Here is a tutorial to create a node in this community. The consensus it is 25 witness nodes. tutorial https://creaproject.io/set-crea-witness-node/

03.03.2020 15:43
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I am a bit of a layperson here, but doesn't this action kind of justify the soft fork? It seems like better communication should have taken place.

02.03.2020 10:40
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It does, they basically just centralized Steem, using funds on exchanges that probably don t even belong to them. But hey, what we did was criminal.

02.03.2020 10:41
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Of course the funds dont belong to them.

02.03.2020 10:52
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This isnt mutually exclusive, Binance can be criminals as well as the steem witnesses. But I suspect the TOS of Binance probably make them proxies to your steem (or other cryptos) otherwise you could literally call autorities.

02.03.2020 11:17
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It's sad that exchanges agree to do that, time to boycott those exchanges I guess, centralised exchanges are now the big player on crypto world, but it doesn't mean it will forever be the case lol.

02.03.2020 11:22
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This is literally the threat we were trying to help avoid. We knew it would happen because of Suns previous actions on Tron. Welcome to Tron 2.0

02.03.2020 11:33
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Well, again speaking as a layperson, it seems that the fears were Justified.

02.03.2020 11:37
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This is literally the threat we were trying to help avoid.

\That worked out well.\

02.03.2020 15:27
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They always had the ability to fork and take over from any block. The fact that they did it kind of proves their intent all along.

03.03.2020 00:08
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No the softfork is the same difference as this. The Softfork highlighted Steems flaw and Justin doubled down to prove its been Centralized all along.

02.03.2020 11:38
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Good point

02.03.2020 11:58
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Well I have to say, you guys are fucking assholes. Steemit inc. has got their SP in an unjust way and now you're ruining the entire blockchain.

Fuck you.

Steem is an centralized blockchain controlled by small minded shitheads. You are just a cancer on Steem and you're ruining everything we've hold dear.

02.03.2020 10:41
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as expected...

02.03.2020 10:41
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If it has been your intent all along to use the Steemit stake for further Steem blockchain and community development according to what has been promised to the investors and users who have stayed here for 4 years, then why not just commit to it in a trustless way?

This was the absolute worst way to build trust with the community going forward. A sad day for decentralization.

02.03.2020 10:42
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Who cast the first stone?

02.03.2020 11:09
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Steemit.

02.03.2020 11:12
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Steemit did.

02.03.2020 11:36
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Are you stupid or just pretending to be?

02.03.2020 11:38
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I'm totally stupid.

02.03.2020 11:41
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Why do we need to cast stones anyway ? Out of fear ? Out of whatever ? Damn we are not learning at all

02.03.2020 12:02
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Look at this @ben doing some downvoting, piece of shit

02.03.2020 13:12
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Do you understand this is exactly what we wanted to prevent?

With this move you:

  • literally killed Steem.
  • used Customer Funds, called your "friends" at exchanges. And without customer knowing, used funds residing on exchanges, to power up and vote.
  • centralised the Steem chain.

Preventing this is the reason why softfork 22.2 was implemented in the first place. But how stupid where we to not include befriended exchanges. We discussed it but we could not believe crypto-world would be so stupid. Apparently exchanges pick a side.

Please understand you have killed a wonderful community of four years. Real people. From all over the world. Not bots or gambling apps.

Maybe your chain will continue, but it will be an empty shell. Happy pumping.

02.03.2020 10:43
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justin sun loves bots and gambling dapps so he can't understand our feeling

02.03.2020 10:56
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02.03.2020 13:26
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What if Justin is a bot masquerading as a human?

Dun dun dunmnnn

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03.03.2020 05:57
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But how stupid where we to not include befriended exchanges.

because it's not "officially" inc accounts lol
softfork was soft af

02.03.2020 11:01
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no exactly.

little could one know exchanges just pick sides.

02.03.2020 12:16
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So you mean witnesses started this hostile behavior without taking into consideration what the consequences could be? Looks to me like a plan that was quickly setup out of fear and the biggest shouters got their deal. Freezing their accouns was by far the biggest mistakes you guys made

02.03.2020 12:26
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Look, I didn't even agree with the SF after I found out about it. However, I give the witnesses props for taking action. There was provably a problem, as we're seeing now, and they did what they thought would work.

The laws they believed they were following weren't followed by @justinsunsteemit, and there is a point beyond which actions can't be predicted. Criminal acts by multiple exchanges does come under that shield IMHO.

The witnesses didn't steal the money, and didn't expect exchanges to steal their clients money, but that's what the exchanges did, albeit they might return ownership of those tokens to their owners.

The witnesses not predicting that criminal act is completely understandable.

03.03.2020 03:15
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Criminal acts by multiple exchanges

Why would you assume anything criminal there? They have had Steemit accounts for a long time?

if anything I would have thought that the Witnesses interfering with with the Stake held by Steemit.inc was clearly a serious criminal act.

03.03.2020 07:06
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There's clearly some criminal behavior all around; between the owners, witnesses, and exchanges. We are probably talking SEC charges that would put many of them away for 10-20 years IF this wasn't an issue of funny money.

Luckily for them, it is unlikely this will ever be investigated.

23.03.2020 14:39
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I see your point. I see the dilemma. HF225 is like "violence" against "soft violence" (at least inc believe). I believe that was all you guys can do at that moment, but I don't think HF225 is all they can do at this moment, to me it looks more like power tripping. But what otherwise with that SF, expect him to negotiate or? How can we know if it's trustful and enforceable even when he agrees on something.

02.03.2020 12:33
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it already says in the post above that stake will be used in the future. So it's basically saying what softfork222 wanted to prevent that it will be done.

02.03.2020 14:10
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By that rule of three. The participation of the grantes witnesses, should not be used.

And they have been using it for years.

Hello?

Exactly what is the difference. I don't see any anywhere.

You don't stop being the same.

The great witnesses use their power, to benefit from what they give to bots and other healers.

That destroys the meaning of the platform completely. It has been like this for years and it is like that right now.

It controls and destroys the entire Steemit homepage, and to whom the benefits are shared.

They have been controlling the content that was most viral within Steemit for years.

Now . You shout to heaven .. Why are they going to use the power that was paralyzed?

But yes. You the witnesses. You are the first to take advantage of that.

Since ever. From minute one.

Do you fear that healers and robots stop giving you profits?

Do you fear that the formula in which the content is displayed will be changed?

Do you fear that Steemit ceases to be a forum on Steemit?

Instead of giving profits to true content creators.

You fear the changes, because you fear they will stop giving you power. It is not about decentralization or not.

Steemit has been a centralized platform. Manipulated exclusively by a handful of people for years and the user's opinion without power is never taken into account. It is always ridiculed.

Isn't this a sad fight of egos?

The only one affected is the user without power. The new user Or the small user who trusted that Steemit was really a blogging platform.

Instead of becoming a forum about Steemit. As has happened over the years.......

09.03.2020 10:44
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The way I see it, the 'contract' with us has been broken. Trust is lost. In essence, this isn't really "STEEM" anymore since the rules have changed.

As such, we must remove our emotional attachment (formed over the years) from it and treat it as business. It's just another shitcoin now.

02.03.2020 19:47
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yay probably the dpos system in steem is also fundamental flawed, a real decentralised should be trustless, based on rules/codes, not trust. Sad sad, have to move on.

02.03.2020 21:31
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02.03.2020 11:13
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02.03.2020 11:13
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And changing the powerdown to 24 hours for what reason? That doesn't make sense and obviously won't be a community decision! Centralization at it's best!

02.03.2020 11:16
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Why? Of course to un-power all what's recyclable, and probably to somewhat defend against any attempt to enforce things like https://developers.steem.io/apidefinitions/#broadcast_ops_decline_voting_rights with its 30 day period, but of course that one is dead anyways, as it can be issued ONLY by the owner of given account (owner decides to do a self-locking). It's dead because no malicious user will ever decide to self-lock the voting rights, and I don't expect steemit or justin or exchanges to do that, especially now. Considering that the steem API probably doesn't have any "lock that bad guy" ops (that could be easily misused), then changing the power-down period now can only mean one thing: INCOMING RAPID FUND DRAIN.

02.03.2020 11:50
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So his exchange buddies can power down all the customers' funds they powered up to save STINC stake.

02.03.2020 13:03
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02.03.2020 13:26
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And changing the powerdown to 24 hours for what reason?

After centralizing the chain so totally and all of the dapps shutting down in protest, it would otherwise take weeks for every single user to rush to the exits as fast as possible and the price of STEEM to tank to zero. This way, the dumping can commence the day after they unilaterally change monetary/issuance policy of their centrally-managed, centrally-issued, unregistered publicly traded security.

02.03.2020 13:39
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I think it's more likely that they had to agree on doing this in order to have the exchanges move along with powering up all of their user's STEEM.

They knew that as soon as the SP on the exchanges was used to give back voting rights to the Steemit Inc accounts, those in turn can implement the new fork and they wouldn't need to use the tokens on those exchanges for voting anymore.

So the power down is likely added to allow the exchanges to power down quickly again once everything is "back in order", so that their users won't be too mad.

02.03.2020 14:11
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Changing the power down is being done so the exchanges that unethically, if not illegally powered up their clients Steem and voted with it can power it down quick and replace their clients Steem before SHTF.

03.03.2020 00:28
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Which would conclude the prediction I made about 2 years ago; steem/steemit/dapps were structured in the same way that a ponzi scheme is structured.

Start with an idea; get investors in on the idea, the future value of that investment increases with new investments (users, witnesses, content creators) that increase is used to payout early investors.

Eventually, either a) the value is no longer sufficient to payout the investors, or b) the main investor pulls their money out, leaving all the rest holding an empty bag.

23.03.2020 14:33
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He proves what he is: a pirate?

03.03.2020 00:53
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02.03.2020 11:21
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lol now they are downvoting!! Stupid!!

02.03.2020 11:26
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seriously, they used the stake to downvote comments....

02.03.2020 11:27
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@ben is a steem whale. Early Adopter. Not sure how he is aligned to Steemit....

02.03.2020 11:46
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That account has been sold.

02.03.2020 11:50
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The changing of the private keys does support this inference https://steemd.com/tx/24fcc974e1318a2665b6bc30c871d3247959203c

03.03.2020 00:42
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@ned is/was a steem whale. Early founder.

02.03.2020 12:21
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It's a Justin Sun/Steemit account.

02.03.2020 12:22
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sunkimjong and his comrades
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03.03.2020 04:46
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lol.. hahaha

03.03.2020 12:29
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Lol😂

23.03.2020 01:23
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I wonder how many of that so called 15 mil users on Tron are bots, proxy and bag holders who just go with the flow. Does anyone in their community even contest things? We might not be the most pleasant bunch but at least we're not just yes men for everything

02.03.2020 11:28
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They don't exist.

There's exactly one person from Tron that's commenting here and it's @will-richards.

02.03.2020 11:44
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For the record, I kidnapped @will-richards from a Tron discord.

03.03.2020 01:20
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Simple: all of them.

02.03.2020 11:50
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Sure looks like it, I've never heard a bag holder of Tron shit on anything they do.

02.03.2020 12:02
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but at least we're not just yes men for everything

haha that is funny

03.03.2020 07:08
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You answer yourself ... It is not exactly Steemit, the most crowded platform of being human.
Nor is it the platform that most helps human beings to enter and participate.

In fact. To all the people to whom I have invited Steemit, they have escaped.

After verifying the content they found here. For them it was more like a conversation between aliens. That a conversation between human beings.

What makes it impossible to retain users... Tron will be crap. Personally, I don't know him.

But Steemit, I know him; and for a new user or person who is not a blockchains fan. I can assure you that Steemit is absolute bullshit. Equally.

And I have already checked with many people.. Trust me.

Both need the ideal change. At least Steemit. That is the platform that I know.
It must become a simpler, natural and realistic platform.

It is required not to talk so much about Steem, Steemit or blockchain applications, to let in other more normal problems for society in general. Other themes that in Steemit in many cases are prohibited or very badly received.

And facilitate understanding and use at the slightest expression..

09.03.2020 11:01
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I think all exchanges should: https://developers.steem.io/apidefinitions/#broadcast_ops_decline_voting_rights before being allowed to operate on the chain, or before people trust their funds to them. But of course, it's now a far too late to shout about it :|

02.03.2020 11:46
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But you fucked up

I'm sorry to say this, but you've been neglecting yourself for years, leading to Steem's death.

02.03.2020 12:34
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02.03.2020 13:26
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When Steem Inc held the most coins and Freedom could decide who can go to top 20, we already knew steem chain is centralized.

For the exchange, if the users can withdraw the coins as will, then there is no problem for the exchange to use the coins. If the exchange prevents users to withdraw, then it's another story.

When firepower the spammer retaliated me just because I reveal the truth and cleaners refused to help, none of your witnesses willing to help. When the whales put the upvotes for sale and the front page is filled with garbage, none of you witnesses care. Now you witnesses realized that you may not be able to collect money without doing anything, you guys acted super fast. Yes, I agree some of the top witnesses have contributions to Steem, but what you did is far less than what you paid for.

Let me tell you, the spirit of Steem had already dead long time ago.

02.03.2020 20:31
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They do and don’t care....this isn’t a normal company.

03.03.2020 01:13
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I see nothing bad going on @roelandp ?

I think the funds used were the funds sitting in their Steemit accounts ! I found two of their account a few weeks ago and made an inquiry as to what they were.

As for Centralization! wow the decisions have been centralized for longer than I have been around which is more than three years. The berniesanders and markymark grouping of accounts has been running this place into the ground for years lol ! Yea a few of you were accumulating a lot of Steem but that is not will support a higher prices. More people holding and using Steem will increase the price! But our centralized leadership has been driving people off the platform just as fast as they can! And introducing pathetic plans like the EIP which was designed to drive more users away!

Preventing this is the reason why softfork 22.2 was implemented in the first place.

looks like the hostile actions taken by the centralized authority led by bernie and marky actually caused it to me!

03.03.2020 06:56
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" But how stupid where we to not include befriended exchanges." I rebutt that this question is not accurately worded. Perhaps something more along the lines of "How could we not have thought about all the multitudinous "tricky" ways required for dealing with a Chinese person in business relations - based on ASSUMPTIONS we make as "non-Chinese" as to what is "fair play", versus wat is "beyond the bounds" of fair play?"

I am actually finding this all very entertaining, in a twisted way, because it vindicated my original gut feeling about this as soon as I heard the news of the "partnership". Aside from all of the "scammy" top dApps on the Tron blockchain (which is PROOF that this dude is not exactly the must trustworthy/straight-forward guy in blockchain) I just find it humerous that as China is literally on lockdown right now we're seeing this sort of thing play out in the microcosm. The bottom line is that, Chinese people "do business" in a totally different way. And so when you ENGAGE them in business dealings you're simply going to be "tacitly agreeing" to dealing with their "tactics". I have not doubt in my mind that Justin Sun BELIEVE that what he is doing is "the best option at this time". And it may ultimately lead to "progress" of some sort. But everyone is going to have to ACCEPT, going forward, that by engaging with Steemit we are all now "tacitly agreeing" to this kind of managemet behavior. As for me, I initiated the 13-week "power down" of all of my ~ 2,600 Steem, with the understanding that the "13 weeks" will be a "trial period" for Justin Sun to prove to me that it is BETTER for me to keep my Steem staked in Steeit versus converting [that] Steem to DEC and putting it all into the @splinterlands game, whose admins' ethics and business practices I have MUCH more confidence in, because they have EARNED that confidence through transparency and fairness over time. Steemit is just ONE dapp. There ARE - and WILL BE others. I find this situation to be more ENLIGHTENING than anything else at this time. Everyone needs to make their own choice. I am still willing to give Justin Sun the next 12 weeks to "show me what he's got". But I'm also wise enough to do my due diligence. Either way, I think things will work out in the grand scheme...

03.03.2020 13:00
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Just here to read the comments 🍿 nomnomnom

22.03.2020 00:19
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RIP Steem
What shall we call the new Fork of Steem?

02.03.2020 10:44
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Steem-Safu?

02.03.2020 10:47
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It is interesting that nobody complain when witnesses did same thing 2 weeks ago :D
Comments fiesta!

02.03.2020 10:44
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A few people did.

02.03.2020 10:45
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Witnesses were going to protect the blockchain from ninja-mined stake and centralization of the blockchain.

Now it's centralized power.

Don't go full retard.

02.03.2020 10:47
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Why they didnt protect before? Because Ned told them he will not use it? It is laugh

02.03.2020 10:52
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@ned didn't use it.

Think about that.

03.03.2020 03:51
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YES, controlled by the second largest name in the whole crypto industry. And you just unleashed the beast. We should be proud of ourselves.

02.03.2020 12:11
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Witnesses were going to protect the blockchain from ninja-mined stake and centralization of the blockchain.

Lol. After all, a lot of whales are whales because they were involved in ninja mining. You didn't block their accounts, so...?

02.03.2020 12:33
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witnesses started this by blocking accounts. This is action-reaction, and they should've seen this coming.

Anyways, a hardfork in inevitable IMO, could've gone much smoother without the 222 drama though

02.03.2020 10:54
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100% behind your statement. Justin/Steemit/Tron, none of them started this. I call it karma

02.03.2020 12:07
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The very first thing he did as the owner of Steemit, Inc was to declare he was going to dismantle the chain.

02.03.2020 15:39
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but if he really had no intention to use that stake to vote for witnesses then there was no problem with that. He could wait till the meeting, make an agreement, where it would say he will not us it for voting witnesses... But he wanted to do this, he does not like to not be in charge...

02.03.2020 15:11
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This is in no way similar. A witness consensus voted by community stake is a decentralized action.
Exchanges taking customer funds to do a hostile takeover and completely centralizing the chain is an abomination of crypto.

Steem, at this moment is 100% centralized.
There is no point in it being a blockchain.

02.03.2020 11:08
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Customer funds?
Exchanges bought a lot of STEEMs 2 days ago causing +25% price pump...
They literally bought blockchain.

02.03.2020 11:13
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They didnt buy 100 million Steem. The price would have gone up much higher.

02.03.2020 11:15
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Community stake ? You need what ?blocktrades and or freedom vote to be in top 20 ? Is that the community consensus ?
I seriously don't know if that's the case

02.03.2020 11:51
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Vast majority of witnesses and community members were on board with the SF. This is an action by 1 guy that bought himself a blockchain by telling his friend CZ to use customer funds to takeover the chain for him.

02.03.2020 12:11
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Has this not always been the case though? I've maintained since forever that all it takes is one wealthy bad actor, a youtuber prank or something and bam, centralised on a whim. Decentralization has always seemed somewhat of an illusion mixed with a pipe dream to me that only really functioned because Steem isn't popular or known

02.03.2020 12:50
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not really, because you can't buy that much from exchanges and not skyrocket the price.

02.03.2020 15:07
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It was only really ever as decentralized as @ned wanted it to be. Perhaps it will dawn on folks that @ned never did this, even though he could have at will, at any point in time.

All of us only ever spoke freely because @ned wanted us to, and that includes all the admiration for his hair.

Miss him yet folks? I sure do.

03.03.2020 03:43
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Don't miss him at all; he set this up as an inevitability from the very beginning and made no effort to fix. People on twitter have predicted such a 'coup' via exchanges specifically for years. I ain't wishing back anyone who created such a scenario

03.03.2020 09:26
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I have long shouted from the rooftops this vulnerability. No one competent to run a witness could have failed to understand it, and be aware of it's existence. That they did nothing to resolve the problem is not @ned's fault.

This is the fault of those witnesses and substantial stakeholders that continued to benefit from the gross inequity of distribution and did nothing to fix the problem until @justinsunsteemit bought @ned out. When trustworthy @ned was no longer standing between them and total centralization of 'their' blockchain, suddenly they blame @ned for creating the problem.

Bullshit.

03.03.2020 17:33
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Welcome to capitalism!

02.03.2020 12:52
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I di mys because it was like taking an aggressive stance and blowing the first strike. Fear is never a good advisor and the results are obvious. The other has to strike back if not intentionally than just in order not to lose his face.
Now please could we just go back to the table and try to deescalate before everything gets totally out of hand ?
Yours Jan

02.03.2020 11:09
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Now that's an optimist when you don't think things are totally out of hand now.

Too bad Justin didn't have the courage to sign the post instead of using the Steemit Inc team as cannon fodder. Cowardly to say the least.

02.03.2020 11:35
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He didn't write it.

02.03.2020 11:45
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how do you figure he didn't write it? well his people at his instructions would be more accurate... it's clearly not been written by the Steemit team we all know even though it has been written to appear it was.

02.03.2020 13:22
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I still do have hope. Because when we are really spiralling into an all out war then we are all going to lose big time. Just like in every other war. And I seriously can not believe that we are really wanting this to happen.

02.03.2020 11:49
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How do you not get that this is war? This was a complete takeover. This is exactly why Bitcoin and Ethereum are not allowing on-chain governance. It always gets corrupted, just like on EOS and TRON, on-chain governance never works.

02.03.2020 22:41
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Don't you remember what a shitshow in eth went down in 2017 ?

03.03.2020 06:38
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It was not a shitshow. People had freedom to choose, which is not a shitshow. On-chain governance is worse (read: coercive) than vote-by-node. Ethereum Classic is technically the original Ethereum chain and they are very free to remain doing things as they wish. However, the majority of people and projects chose the chain known today as
"Ethereum" because they felt different about the decision.

Steem is different. Because a very small number of nodes decide everything, all you have to do is hijack the nodes, which happened here, and boom, chain is officially centralized and under the control of one corporation. Consensys does not have that kind of power.

04.03.2020 23:09
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How do you not grasp that Steem is now @justinsunsteemit's personal possession? There is no war. He won.

Victori spolia.

03.03.2020 03:48
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Did you expect anything different from a one-percenter shitheel?

02.03.2020 12:58
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Exactly de-escalation is what we need. Things usually go south when people get emotional and let emotions rule over common sense. The emotional response has been impressive and has been resulting in an impressive escalation

02.03.2020 11:48
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What would be the point of negotiations? @justinsunsteemit has all the power. What can you offer him? Who would take his word?

Not me. Who will use those exchanges? Not me.

All the negotiations are done.

Steem is over.

03.03.2020 03:46
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He has got the chain in his grip but he already got others so that is not really what he wanted I guess. The community and ppl he has absolutely not, steem is more than just the technical topics behind the Blockchain. And by the way even though it was not that clear I yesterday it was not Justin nut blocktrades and freedom who decided the witness and in the end what code the chain is running.

03.03.2020 06:37
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Really? You like dictatorship?

How is that a same thing when you had consensus witnesses with an intention of preserving Steem and now one centralized entity trying to force things?

P.S. They downvoted most opposing comments here.

02.03.2020 11:27
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It is not what I like, just how I see the situation.

02.03.2020 11:36
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Because they are teaching people a lesson in being not hostile. Should have not started this war in the first place. The witnesses didn't preserve steemit. They were on the verge of killing it.

02.03.2020 12:09
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Ass kiss much?

02.03.2020 12:57
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Can't write much?

02.03.2020 13:01
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I write a lot actually. Thanks for noticing.

02.03.2020 13:13
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I just noticed you got a thriving blog. Keep writing and one day you got enough pennies!

02.03.2020 13:41
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Thanks so much for your facetiously kind words. Hopefully all your ass kissing disinformation earns you some pennies as well.

02.03.2020 13:48
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I already got plenty of pennies. You kissed the ass of witnesses before, you did. But because you can't see the reality you probably don't even notice.

02.03.2020 13:53
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He really thinks Justin will pick him up in his new Steem order.

02.03.2020 13:05
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Wtf? Ben’s account who has been inactive since...forever, now upvotes those comments? Controlled by Justin? Wtf is going on?

Who knows...maybe @mottler jumps in too...or even @freedom if he pulls back the delegations...
Disgusting

02.03.2020 11:34
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ben...

ben|ned

02.03.2020 11:37
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Extreme...

02.03.2020 11:39
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looks like it belongs to steemit.

02.03.2020 11:42
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The ownership was updated several hours ago if you check Steemd.

02.03.2020 11:49
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One of many sock puppets.
Ned said he would hide his stake and seems to suffer from little man's disease enough to burn us all down with it.

03.03.2020 02:41
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Some of us did.

02.03.2020 11:36
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where were you? There were tonnes of heated debates after the soft fork.

02.03.2020 12:38
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Spot on!

03.03.2020 05:48
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Reserving this comment space for when I'm not having a rage stroke.

02.03.2020 10:45
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Deep breaths, man, deep breaths.

02.03.2020 10:47
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Find a new space I have marked this as my fave comment so far.

02.03.2020 10:52
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Joins in quiet contemplation

02.03.2020 11:25
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Mutual

02.03.2020 11:33
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hahahaha

02.03.2020 11:36
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Everybody's allowed to vote their stake. Always has been.

02.03.2020 15:29
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Ah, the @sneak comes out of the woodwork. You must sense your time is come. That pesky @ned and the decentralization he favored has finally been eliminated. Now is your hour.

Come forth, and strike!

"Everybody's allowed to vote their stake. Always has been."

No. that's a lie. After the witnesses suspended the founder's stake from voting, until the exchanges fraudulently reinstated it, that stake was not allowed to vote witnesses.

03.03.2020 03:58
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That pesky @ned and the decentralization he favored

lol

03.03.2020 04:46
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You told me I was asking questions out of place, you're right, no one had a chance to react to this.

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03.03.2020 09:13
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That escalated quickly!

. The TRON Foundation is committed to add value and grow the Steem ecosystem and intends to use part of the Steemit stake for such executions.

can you be more specific?

02.03.2020 10:45
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aka turn steemit into a gambling app. Lol its all lip service. Couldn't even wait for the town hall. No user has a say on this chain as of now

02.03.2020 11:36
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Damn it. What a start to the week!

02.03.2020 12:33
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You fucking used exchanges to take over the chain!! ARE YOU RETARDED? That has to be illegal somehow!

You commie pieces of shit.

02.03.2020 10:45
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You are the retard. I can see it from the way you behave and talk. Makes zero sense and stop whining like a baby because you got slapped for supporting this violent behavior . Your witnesses made you believe what they want They only protected their monthly stake

02.03.2020 12:21
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Are funds safu?

02.03.2020 10:46
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I would withdraw anything you have from exchanges (sell to btc first, this wont end well). They cannot possibly cover withdrawals because they powered up a heap of customer funds illegally to do this.

02.03.2020 10:49
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I'd be interested to see how much liquid steem is left on exchange accounts or cold storage at this stage.

Right now, I really fucking regret my car's licence plates.

02.03.2020 10:51
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Your carplate has "binance" or "huobi" on it?

02.03.2020 11:19
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LOL!
Justin probably owns them too :-)

02.03.2020 12:06
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02.03.2020 12:20
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Good luck! You just lost whole community, the most valuable thing here.

02.03.2020 10:47
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Good luck! You just lost
Whole community, the most
Valuable thing here.

                 - jacekw


I'm a bot. I detect haiku.

02.03.2020 10:47
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03.03.2020 09:11
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sad to see this.. you are ruining my steem blockchain

02.03.2020 10:47
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More Rewards to Witnesses
Community is the core to the Steem ecosystem, and Witnesses should earn rewards accordingly given how important their roles are. We will come up with a plan to reward Witnesses privileges in Steemit like staking rewards.

But a platform like this is nothing without content. Do you surely believe that wintesses need to be rewarded more heavilly? Do people use reddit, instagram, and facebook to see drama about reddit, instagram and facebook?

No, they go there to follow and discuss things that they are interested in.

We need less content about Steem and more rewards for dedicated content creators and people who grow communities.

02.03.2020 10:49
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The witnesses are theirs... they don't give AF

02.03.2020 10:50
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Popcorn sales through the roof right now, I'm sure!

02.03.2020 10:52
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and Netflix subscriptions are getting cancelled!

02.03.2020 13:26
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did someone say !popcorn ?

02.03.2020 15:25
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02.03.2020 11:52
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Ditto

02.03.2020 11:56
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02.03.2020 13:23
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It’s 2 years for me, but it hurts like 4 :/

02.03.2020 14:05
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Where can we regroup to discuss tactics? Not here on 22.5. Can we somehow connect to 22.2 which presumably previous witnesses are still running?

02.03.2020 13:11
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I am guessing they are forking the chain as we speak...

02.03.2020 13:14
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let me know when you see announcements please, in case i miss.

02.03.2020 13:45
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It's a strategy to say that "witness rewards will be boosted" because in the end they need witnesses supporting this hostile takeover.

02.03.2020 10:55
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While at the end of the day, witnesses are needed to maintain the infrastructure - what is the point of infrastructure or the blockchain at all if creators aren't rewarded in an equitable manner?

As I stated - people don't come to steem to see the marvels of its underlying technology, they come for the ability to etch their statements into an immutable ledger, get a reward in exchange for that, or to share their creations with the world.

02.03.2020 10:57
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Imagine there would be only Steemit. No SteemMonsters, DTube, 3Speak, Steempeak, SteemWorld,etc.

02.03.2020 12:00
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Imagine there could be a hell of a lot more if it wasn't for most of the witnesses their greed.

02.03.2020 12:04
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It doesn't stop the stuff running on the chain, it just takes away the incentive.

Also, do I read this in an Elton John sing song voice?

02.03.2020 12:08
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Oh wow, thanks! Impossible to read that without singing now! XD

02.03.2020 13:23
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Sorry, not sorry. Great song though!

02.03.2020 13:27
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I don't get it.

02.03.2020 14:24
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And no wonder you don't get it when @holoz0r meant John Lennon, not Elton John...

02.03.2020 15:26
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tap tap... is this thing on now?

02.03.2020 21:44
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John Lennon I think.

02.03.2020 15:11
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02.03.2020 13:22
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Don't worry, new APPs will fill the vacuum

02.03.2020 15:38
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While at the end of the day, witnesses are needed to maintain the infrastructure - what is the point of infrastructure or the blockchain at all if creators aren't rewarded in an equitable manner?

Its a bad approach and we have seen it failing first hand. There must be an intrinsic utility value provided by the chain like dApp which generates revenue. Otherwise, the system is flawed.

02.03.2020 13:02
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A suggestion could be that when a post is promoted or featured, the money used for that promotion or feature is spread to the accounts that delivered page views or clicks on that promotion, paying content creators for the impressions made.

It's need an ad sense like anti spam / anti gaming mechanism to stop bots, but it's another way to share revenue.

02.03.2020 13:05
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yes, something like that. A part of the revenue can be paid back to the apps. In anycase we are seeing the first generation apps and also seeing the issues around it. What we are witnessing, IMHO is the evolutionary steps in the blockchain paradigm. Time will tell beyond the Bitcoin usecase, will the public-ledger will live or not.

02.03.2020 13:25
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I hope so. I came to this chain to say what I want and to stand by the history of what I say, acknowledging that my changing opinions and thoughts of matters can be scrutinised openly.

It's okay for someone to change their opinion and outline the reasons for it.

It is n it okay for them to delete all traces of what their opinion or idea was at a certain stage of history.

02.03.2020 13:31
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Interestingly I was reading a paper given below today ...

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02.03.2020 14:00
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This is great : )

03.03.2020 08:18
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It is a bribe. But the witnesses will be the exchanges and Tron BPs or whatever they are called.

"Community" witnesses.

02.03.2020 12:18
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Completely, this is to ensure compliance with the new CENTRAL AUTHORITY!

02.03.2020 12:43
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All aboard the C-Train!!

^It works on several levels.

02.03.2020 13:13
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FUCK YOU STEEMIT.jpg

02.03.2020 13:17
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02.03.2020 13:22
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They HAVE witnesses appointed at the moment. Who do you think they have to talk to?

02.03.2020 12:44
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02.03.2020 13:22
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02.03.2020 13:22
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Witness's = Tron puppets on strings.

02.03.2020 10:57
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They didn’t even set @null or something as beneficiary....

Hahaha...pathetic

02.03.2020 11:53
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And downvoted my comment...

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02.03.2020 11:55
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You shouldn't be hostile to begin with.

02.03.2020 12:02
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Freedom of speech, I believe in it, which is why I will not downvote your comment.

02.03.2020 12:04
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downvotes do not limit your freedom of speech

02.03.2020 12:14
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He just wanted to point out that they already started using their stake.

He wasn’t offended by the DV...

02.03.2020 12:24
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ahh, misunderstanding then! sorry :)

02.03.2020 12:25
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Thanks mate, I wasn't going to bother saying this, but I appreciate you doing so.

02.03.2020 12:28
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02.03.2020 14:01
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02.03.2020 13:23
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02.03.2020 13:23
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I think it's kind of telling that one of the first things they want to do after gaining the top 20 witness accounts is to give more rewards to the witnesses.

02.03.2020 11:00
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It'd have to be some pretty significant bribe to make it worth their while.

This is a bit of counter ransom, to the initial ransom that was 0.22.2 Soft Fork.

02.03.2020 11:01
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Ransom, good word.

02.03.2020 11:11
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Just put it between H1 headers and bold, and its even better. :D

02.03.2020 11:12
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!giphy ha+ha+ha+funny

02.03.2020 11:13
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giphy is supported by witness untersatz!

02.03.2020 11:13
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Not what I was going for but oh wells. LOL

02.03.2020 11:14
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Bot does what the bot wants.

Apt though, I suspect for many, this is exactly what they'll do, walk through a door (or a lift) and never return.

02.03.2020 11:17
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Change is scary man, especially when it hits some of them in the pocketbook. The funniest thing is one of the witnesses names is @nicetry001 bwahahahaaa!

02.03.2020 11:21
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waitforyou1 is poignant as well
coronashallgo ....
waitforyou1 ...

02.03.2020 11:23
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Or or or, goodguy123 instead of someguy123? Was a little thought put into the names.

02.03.2020 11:25
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definitely

02.03.2020 11:43
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@nicetry001 - rank (25) active 3 days, no posts, no comments.

Meet your new witnesses! True paragons of integrity!

03.03.2020 20:20
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Community indeed!

02.03.2020 11:43
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02.03.2020 13:24
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Scummunity

02.03.2020 13:28
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Hi @holoz0r

But a platform like this is nothing without content.

Very true. Correct me if I'm wrong - but did current witnesses supported content creators? Most of them unfortunatelly didn't.

Perhaps new witnesses will.

Do you surely believe that wintesses need to be rewarded more heavilly?

I rather see witnessed being rewarded instead of seeing steem being dumped on the market, the way STINC has been doing for very long.

We need less content about Steem and more rewards for dedicated content creators and people who grow communities.

YOu nailed it.

Yours, Piotr

02.03.2020 11:52
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Thank you. I've made this opinion known for quite some time, and even tried to get a witness node up and running myself at one point.

I respect the work that is done by curie, ocd, csquared, and other such community accounts and projects, and support them with my witness votes.

Witnesses were more than sustainable, and many do delegate to curation projects, and competitions which promoted people to bring new content to steem, but these rewards were not ... as philanthropic as say, patrons in the traditional art world.

02.03.2020 11:55
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I've made this opinion known for quite some time, and even tried to get a witness node up and running myself at one point.

It seem that we're on the same page here @holoz0r

ps.
I would need to ask you for little favour. Recently I've decided to join small contest called "Community of the week" and I desribed our project.hope hive/community. Would you mind helping me out and RESTEEM this post - just to get some extra exposure? Your valuable comment would be also appreciated.

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

03.03.2020 10:14
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Perhaps new witnesses will.

there are no new witnesse, these 20 accounts are SUN the dictator

02.03.2020 12:45
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@crypto.piotr

Perhaps new witnesses will.

there are no new witnesse, these 20 accounts are SUN the dictator

02.03.2020 13:18
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Hi again @aagabriel

Thank you for your reply.

Can I ask you for little favour? I joined contest called "Community of the week" with project I manage and I would be grateful if you could RESTEEM it and help me get some exposure and drop some encouraging comment :)

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

03.03.2020 10:12
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02.03.2020 13:23
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It's me again @rafalski

Thanks for your previous comment.

I would need to ask you for little favour. Recently I've decided to join small contest called "Community of the week" and I desribed our project.hope hive/community. Would you mind helping me out and RESTEEM this post - just to get some extra exposure? Your valuable comment would be also appreciated.

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

03.03.2020 10:12
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In re:

  • A very select few were on trails and if you bugged a few enough times, they would vote your post, but very very very rarely did you get a comment out of them.
  • I think the current rewards are a little skewed, top 20's make a killin while backups not so much. More of a linear curve would be better.
  • Exactly.
02.03.2020 12:49
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Hi again @enginewitty

Thank you for your reply.

Can I ask you for little favour? I joined contest called "Community of the week" with project I manage and I would be grateful if you could RESTEEM it and help me get some exposure and drop some encouraging comment :)

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

03.03.2020 10:09
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02.03.2020 13:23
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What new witnesses? They're all justin sun

02.03.2020 15:28
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Hi again @cadawg

Can I ask you for little favour? I joined contest called "Community of the week" with project I manage and I would be grateful if you could RESTEEM it and help me get some exposure and drop some encouraging comment :)

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

03.03.2020 10:08
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Finally someone with reason. Give to people who build bridges instead of walls (softforkwink)
I was happy someone like Justin bought into this project. And we gave him a warm welcome. It shameful and I hope order will be restored quickly! We could have reached out to them, request a meeting, open dialog, find balance. No, @justinsunsteemit MIGHT be hostile, let's destroy ourselves and block him out. Let's start a war. Unbelievable
@steemitblog, If you need a witness who stands behind you and is passionate about making this place awesome, sustainable and profitable. I am here for you.

02.03.2020 11:59
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I tried to get a node up and running once upon a time. It was a difficult journey I gave up on as my personal funds wouldn't support it on an ongoing matter. I also wanted to own the physical hardware, not rent it. :)

We shall see what the next few days bring.

02.03.2020 12:06
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I am pretty sure some of the witnesses will not need their equipment anymore. Could strike a bargain

02.03.2020 12:32
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Most of that hardware is in European data centres, not owned by them, but leased.

A lot of it is Intel gear as well, that basically needs a nuclear powerplant to run. :P

I'd rather have AMD EPYC hardware at this point :P

I've got no room in the house to put it, let alone the knowledge of how to get a witness node up and running.

02.03.2020 12:35
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02.03.2020 14:02
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Done that passed that long time ago... then tried EOS... then gave up... =) I have better and bigger machines where I work that I can't use for this.. and not having codes that can use the full potential of hardware even if the target is to sustain decentralization, its not a good path in my view.

Performance from some players might be better, but that does not mean they have the same profits or play in the game. For the later, you have real'estate. Not blockchain.

02.03.2020 12:43
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It would be nice if setting up a node was as easy as it was to mine dogecoin back in the day. :)

02.03.2020 12:47
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Bootlicker.

You just want to protect your own "investment" without realizing what is actually at stake. Freedom of speech and immutability is what made the ChiCom Knight Steemplar Justin Sun come running to take this over...

beg for scraps, slave. It's all you will ever get.

02.03.2020 13:20
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Omg in these times you really see how dumb some people actually are.

02.03.2020 13:40
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02.03.2020 14:01
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02.03.2020 13:24
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Yeah, you seem like a good choice to secure the blockchain. Lol

02.03.2020 15:00
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You know what would be really funny? If they froze all those witnesses that froze them, just you know, temporarily.

02.03.2020 12:08
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I hope both sides find a way to deescalate the situation ...

02.03.2020 12:27
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Hear, here hombre. I imagine some have already coded a hardfork are working on it right now to make a 'new steem' apart from TRON. Saddens me most that they didn't even really give new management a chance to prove themselves. I'm hoping for the best!

02.03.2020 12:32
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02.03.2020 13:24
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That would sure be hilarious.

02.03.2020 15:35
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Justin has shown he doesn’t care about decentralization or blockchain at all. Way to throw his reputation to garbage in this space. Nobody will take him seriously again.

Give me my Steem back. Hard fork already!

02.03.2020 12:11
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A lot of witness nodes are physically centralised in European data centres. They're spread out, sure - but Steem was never as decentralised as other cryptocurrency projects are.

02.03.2020 12:14
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So one person running the Steem and 21 different voted in by thousands of users is the same to you?

02.03.2020 12:18
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No, definitely not. This is a hostile takeover, but a good time to talk about the physical decentralisation along with the benefits of multiple, independent human beings (proof of brain!) running the chain simultaneously.

We can have both.

02.03.2020 12:22
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I don't think so. Not until this is settled. Dictatorship vs people at this point. If people win then we can talk about other issues, otherwise, there is no point.

02.03.2020 12:25
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Wherever the community goes, I'll go.

There's no point scrawling out my life on a wall that no one reads or engages in. :)

02.03.2020 12:30
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02.03.2020 13:23
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He's from China, under the wing of Jack Ma, two of the most centralised entities on the planet. Not that surprising

02.03.2020 12:42
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Well, you seem to be right. Binance, huobi, and tron orchestrated this take over together. Looks like they all are connected and act like mafia.

02.03.2020 12:48
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I am not informed about this so Binance in their contracts is free to do with peoples coin whatever they want? if that is right, maybe people should know that.

02.03.2020 14:29
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If you know @freedom or @pumpkin, you would know Steem is not decentralized long time ago. That account was able to decide whether a witness can be top 20

02.03.2020 12:43
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You have no clue, freedom is an opportunist and profiteer. Not a dictator.

02.03.2020 12:46
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Right, I have no clue who is freedom/pumpkin. Do you have any information about him?

02.03.2020 15:23
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I have no clue.

02.03.2020 19:06
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02.03.2020 13:23
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You say that like anyone in power is reading comments lolz

02.03.2020 12:28
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I'm reading the replies to this - and its something I'm super passionate about, and always have been!

02.03.2020 12:29
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Yeah I mean JSun and co aren't. Maybe get a vague inkling of who's on their side. They don't give a rats butt what we think here in the comments

02.03.2020 13:26
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Everything that has been done that past 4 years here was just wiped out by a fucking communist piece of shit. Congrats @ned and @justinsunsteemit, you just made Steem 100% worthless.

Fucking halfwits.

02.03.2020 12:31
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Downvoted because you self voted and think your response is valuable in any way but it actually isn't.

02.03.2020 12:39
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Congrats. You’re a fucking douchebag with a $0 vote. Poor pleb.

02.03.2020 12:43
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Whahaha you are even more stupid then I thought. Being a bully because you got yourself some stake (good luck using that). You are a hostile person and when I read your comments I am not sure if some rich kid is trolling or if you are serious. So much anger. Well Karma is a bitch.

02.03.2020 12:49
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No, no, your mom is the bitch.

02.03.2020 13:30
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Exactly my point

02.03.2020 14:00
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02.03.2020 13:22
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He might have destroyed Tron by this action too. You were right all along. These scammers like JustinSun are sneaky.

02.03.2020 12:39
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How can we get out of this? Where to discuss? Don't really wanna do it here on this illegal hardfork.

02.03.2020 13:07
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02.03.2020 13:22
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What's this 4 about ?

About how many crocs Justins' nan sells everyday `?

02.03.2020 13:39
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4 and death are pronounced the same in Chinese

02.03.2020 15:24
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I mean, just get out of Steem. Even if he took back this move, who would want to work on a blockchain owned by such a character constantly casting his red shadow? Sounds kinda gross

02.03.2020 13:24
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I dont wanna get out of Steem, just this crooked hardfork version

02.03.2020 13:42
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Me

02.03.2020 21:42
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steemclassic

02.03.2020 15:37
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Steemit finally went to hell? How terrible.

02.03.2020 12:39
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Fucking hell, never thought I'd actually say this, but you seem to have been right all along.

02.03.2020 13:34
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Amen.

02.03.2020 13:50
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Yeah, if only you could combine all your insults from the past couple of years and send them towards Ned and Justin. They completely deserve it

02.03.2020 14:45
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We told you so.

02.03.2020 14:40
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Fair play, I didn't see this coming, but it's impossible to ignore anymore.

02.03.2020 14:42
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It didn’t take long for your optimism to get wiped out.

02.03.2020 15:07
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02.03.2020 13:22
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The 30 witnesses voting rule.
That is who to blame!

Lesson learned the hard way.

02.03.2020 14:01
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It looks like the ambience in steemit will be worse.

02.03.2020 14:17
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He wants to reward HIS witnesses.

02.03.2020 14:40
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@holoz0r 100% - I can't stand that the biggest payouts on Steem are all STEEM-related. I mean - give me a fucking break, guys - stop staring at your own navel. That's no way to onboard new users.

02.03.2020 18:14
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Thank you, glad to see that others agree. :)

03.03.2020 22:17
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@holoz0r 100% - I can't stand that the biggest payouts on Steem are all STEEM-related. I mean - give me a fucking break, guys - stop staring at your own navel. That's no way to onboard new users.

02.03.2020 18:18
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Bye bye decentralization hello hostile takeover just like much of the community suspected eh! Fucking sellout douche canoe.

02.03.2020 10:50
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牛逼,可以预见一个分叉要发生了。

02.03.2020 10:53
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Well, now you did exactly what the community feared you would do and what was the reason for this softfork all along.
You have just proven all of them right.

02.03.2020 10:53
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welcome to steem yall

02.03.2020 10:54
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What's next? All steemians to be quarantined?

02.03.2020 11:33
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Forcibly removed with drive-bys.

02.03.2020 12:19
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🤓 That ^^.

02.03.2020 15:05
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well done. we really needed an escalation of the mess and if you talk about an action that could be "deemed illegal and criminal", then what's yours like?

02.03.2020 10:54
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MALICIOUSLY STRUCTURED! Fully agree. They basically were trying to hold the stake hostage so they could do what they wanted with it. Regardless if it was ninja mined and 'promised' or not. I understand why they did, but did not agree with it. I am curious though, where is 22.4? Looks like you pissed off a lot of people. To be expected. There are some majorly valid points down there, especially concerning the community aspect of it and the sheer numbers of supporters many have. Those numbers (albeit some long since inactive accounts - and I imagine some are even from themselves) represent what Steem really is. The community. As long as you all don't do anything too drastic and have the blockchain's best interests at it's core, that community will remain. But the blockchain without the community is - nothing.

02.03.2020 10:55
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wow, good job Justin, now you upvote the 3 posts that agree with you and downvote the 50 that call you for what you are, you really have no limits to how you ll abuse of your power. Congratulations for killing our chain.

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02.03.2020 11:30
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Actually, this @ben account was created during the initial mining of Steem when it launched, which means, this is an old account, nothing to do with @justinsunsteemit. So uh, I would say somebody might be interested to see where Steem goes.

02.03.2020 11:34
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huh, maybe check steemd and you will see the ownership was changed at the same time as the other Ned's accounts...

02.03.2020 11:42
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Touche'

02.03.2020 11:44
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so belongs to steemit, hence belongs to justin.

02.03.2020 11:44
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Actually, this @ben account was created during the initial mining of Steem when it launched, which means, this is an old account, nothing to do with @justinsunsteemit.

Again, are you stupid?

02.03.2020 11:45
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I'M SO STUPID I DON'T EVEN TAKE OFFENSE AT OFFENSIVE OFFENSIVE REMARKS. Just rolling with the punches.

02.03.2020 11:54
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Looks like the witnesses are. Never start a war you can't win. Whats plan B, fork away and have zero exchanges list your coin? Good idea

02.03.2020 12:14
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I'm in. As long as it's decentralized. These exchanges have proven willing to defraud their customers. I'm happy to have learned that about them. I'll never, ever, use one of them for any reason, because they're thieves.

You do you. Good luck with your money rolling with theives.

03.03.2020 04:19
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Again, are you stupid?

From a witness which installed 22.2 this is rich. 🤓

02.03.2020 14:46
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It's Steemit controlled account. You don't seem to have any idea on what you're talking about.

02.03.2020 11:55
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Nope, I'm an idiot.

02.03.2020 12:04
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And I'm upset, so I wish you don't take this personally.

02.03.2020 12:09
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No worries. There'll be a lot of passion and fear and all kinds of crazy emotions flaring the next few days. :P

02.03.2020 12:10
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lol justinsun = steemit inc now

02.03.2020 12:04
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Likely a ned sock puppet.
I wont be surprised to find out he has 1000s, all staked up.
The ninja mine was in excess of of 80%, only public stinc accounts ever get counted.

03.03.2020 03:04
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The more @Ben votes the less influence he will have. Keep pissing him off.

02.03.2020 15:21
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"Congratulations for killing our your chain."

It was never really ours. It was @neds. He just let us pretend it was ours.

03.03.2020 04:17
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But the blockchain without the community is - nothing.

This! This right here

02.03.2020 11:32
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How about

the blockchain without projects is nothing

Steem only survived & brought in new users, because people built other projects on top of it (SteemMonsters, DTube, Dlive, etc.) I guess Justin truly thinks those are worthless, because many Witnesses built apps & projects themselves, Witnesses who he seems to consider malicious.

02.03.2020 11:48
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The biggest one, besides Steemit, has been Splinterlands/SteemMonsters, and that didn't use a single penny from any SPS or Steemit ninja-mined stake. Projects are great and they help us thrive, but without a community to use any projects, projects are worthless.

02.03.2020 11:57
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brought in new users, because people built other projects on top of it

And among many good projects, lets not forget bid bods that made a lot of real users go away.

02.03.2020 18:52
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The SF was structured to protect the decentralised governance. Nobody (at least the far majority of Witnesses) wanted to go anywhere near forking off their stake, we simply wanted to have a place to talk, without having the chain overtaken (which happened now).

And the fact that you call the SF malicious, while you were in favor of burning it? Are you stupid? I told you already that burning it off is far too extreme, but you're calling the SF malicious? Again, are you stupid?

The SF was built on the promises (not to use the stake for voting & governance) by the previous owners of Steemit Inc. Nothing more, nothing less.

Since Justin is now the steerer of the ship, he made his move. Centralising the chain to bring change. I don't want to be the person who judges whether it's wrong or right, but one thing is for sure: @ned has always been full of shit and for the last 2+ years, he's been a useless idiot. He should have known that selling it to Tron, will result in this outcome. So either he's stupid/naive, or he never cared about decentralisation.

02.03.2020 11:43
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In favor of burning it after the fact. That way nobody could keep abusing it. I would have never voted to do this, never upgraded to 22.2. I get why you all did it. Who was benefitting from the SPS? Same people. Look, I don't agree with hijacking anything. And now we're all gonna pay the price for it. I don't blame them, I blame other people that were impatient and jumped the gun before there was any kind of actual talk aside from a marketing commercial.

02.03.2020 11:49
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In favor of burning it

It doesn't matter what comes after. Burning is only okay, if it's a whole new blockchain & branding. Nobody would have ever burned Steemit Incs stake like that, on the original Steem blockchain. Stop spreading lies.

Also, if Steem ever has only people like you left, then good riddance. Spineless idiot.

02.03.2020 11:55
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People like me? Do elaborate. Because, I'm too stupid to understand exactly what just happened the past month.

02.03.2020 12:02
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You do not sound stupid... you sound like a fucking shitheel mealy mouthed shithead.

02.03.2020 12:51
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Why thank you! I try hard to uphold my standards and procure plenty of salty shit for the masses.

02.03.2020 12:53
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LOLZ!

02.03.2020 13:13
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I agree. The witnesses probably should have tried to talk about this before taking actions to freeze steemit's accounts.

I remember the last time there was as little as a whisper about forking steemit's stakes, ned started powering down. They agreed such a thing won't happen as long as he accepted to use the stakes for development purposes, which he did.

Under new leadership, we should have reached out to rediscuss those terms first. But no, we had to act out of fear by freezing their stakes first. At that point, our intent didn't matter to Justin Sun. He bought the company with his money and he had to protect his assets from threats.

I also think we must have been pretty dumb to think it was okay for ned to sell steemit with all that stake in the first place. If we believed it didn't belong to him, freezing it was a move we should have done a long, long time ago.

02.03.2020 14:08
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"...we must have been pretty dumb to think it was okay for ned to sell steemit with all that stake..."

What part of what @ned did with his stake was your business?

@ned didn't do this. He could have. He had the power to do this for years, while we admired his hair, and didn't do it.

He created this blockchain. He allowed you to speak freely on it - and now you blame him for @justinsunsteemit's actions?

Perhaps you fear your new overlord, and @ned never drove you to fear, because he was trustworthy. Think about that.

03.03.2020 04:14
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What part of what @ned did with his stake was your business?

Essentially what we could have asked about Justin Sun.

What part of what @justinsuntron did with his stake was your business?

I didn't support the softfork because it was hostile.
I think having a dialogue would have been the first thing we did.

03.03.2020 06:38
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I didn't support the SF either, because it was censorship.

03.03.2020 08:15
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I think Ned knew just what he was doing by selling to Tron. He knew how you would act.

Sun would have known to call steemit, steemit and not steemy at the AMA.

think about this from the perspective of an angry person with a toy everyone wants that you own but no one likes you.

02.03.2020 11:50
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You're a pretty smart cookie. But I'm the one they keep calling stupid.

02.03.2020 11:58
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You're a pretty smart
Cookie. But I'm the one they
Keep calling stupid.

                 - enginewitty


I'm a bot. I detect haiku.

02.03.2020 11:58
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LOL

02.03.2020 18:59
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lol. It comes with the territory of not following group think, I'm afraid.

02.03.2020 12:28
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"Follow none, carry some & lead the way while helping all you can."

  • Witty
02.03.2020 12:34
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newsteemparadigm.

Your words are my actions on here. I've been trading, making profits and giving back to my supporters in steem, direct to them.

02.03.2020 12:40
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ned got HIS money

03.03.2020 02:57
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You malign and mischaracterize @ned, who held the power to do this in his hands for years and never did it. But, given your propensity to deflect and divert attention to the motes in the eyes of others in order to conceal the log in your own, I am not surprised.

Bid botter.

03.03.2020 04:09
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They basically were trying to hold the stake hostage so they could do what they wanted with it.

At least it showed the extreme level of naivety that the 'collective' witnesses possess.

Not being one to say 'I told you so...'
but....lmao.

02.03.2020 12:25
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I feel you. Was a 'pretty wise move' thinking they could actually get away with it.

02.03.2020 12:31
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let me get your opinion on this:

should they have burned all the Neon Green stake immediately?

03.03.2020 02:59
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This means nothing to me, soz...link?

03.03.2020 05:05
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Neon Green was a designation of the particular premined stake owned by steemit inc.

aggroed made the classification in this post
https://goldvoice.club/steem/@aggroed/teach-the-controversy-softfork-0-22-2-stop-and-correct-potential-futures

03.03.2020 17:42
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ok cheers, that makes things a bit clearer.

I still don't know the answer to your question, though.

I think if the genuine intention was to decentralize, the system wouldn't have been set up like it was, in the first place.

Oligarchical, as opposed to representative, for example (not thought it through, so can't really expand too much, and on my first coffee).

03.03.2020 21:52
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I said burn it all and they told me to fuck off.

this

it wouldnt have stopped the counter-coup, but maybe it would have removed justin's motive for conducting it

03.03.2020 02:56
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How compatible with TRC10, TRC20 and various ERC standards does SMTs intend to be?

Posted using Partiko Android

02.03.2020 10:56
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I think one ERC1155 multi-token contract for all Steem tokens could work

02.03.2020 12:23
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I wasnt confused until Im reading the comments.. So the ninja mined stake of steemit wont be frozen? Now im confused!

02.03.2020 10:56
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They've got a brand of new witnesses they can reverse the fork and go back to what it was. Using a massive borrowed stake to unlock their Ninja mine

02.03.2020 11:35
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Thanks, I just read that on the post from taskmaster. What a clusterfuck 🤣

02.03.2020 15:06
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They used the ninja mined stake to vote with combined with stake that was bought off exchanges.

02.03.2020 12:45
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Also, you just pointed out you have no interest in the community. You aren't committed, it seems you never have been committed. You don't care about the community or the users.

You don't dare to say that you're committed. You are the bad actors and the other witnesses cared about the community.

02.03.2020 10:56
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Anything that is owned by or that can be bought by someone is not decentralized. This has just been proven. In fact, as a crypto investor for years I believe that we we have all been fooled into thinking that we are investing in a decentralized solution, and, it may have started out that way. Like anything, the rich will centralize everything they can and make you pay for it. Nothing changed, the world is still the same as it was before 2009. Good luck everyone. :-)

02.03.2020 10:58
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Well, That went from bad to worse. Ok Steem Fam, ❤🙏 What next.....

02.03.2020 10:59
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I guess we become another gambling app on tron lol

02.03.2020 11:36
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Ugh ....talk about buzz kill! This is such a wild, crazy ride man. Just 🤮. This is so precisely why decentralization is needed!

02.03.2020 11:48
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Yes indeed, I always told myself i'll be here till it goes to 0 or to the moon, seems 0 is more likely now! Seems like chains aren't as immutable as we've been sold

02.03.2020 11:51
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This is hilarious. Broken promises.

02.03.2020 11:00
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Well, he technically didnt use the steemit funds.:p

02.03.2020 11:26
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Read the announcement again.

02.03.2020 11:53
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He 'technically' didn't use steemit's stake. lol
We froze steemit's stake last week, remember?
He got his friends from the exchanges (binance and Huobi) to help him vote his cronies and took over the chain.

02.03.2020 14:19
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Once the exchanges fraudulently seized the funds they were charged with keeping for their clients and voted in the witnesses for @justinsunsteemit, those witnesses ran a fork that unfroze his funds.

He now has full access to the founder's stake to do with as he will. That's what controls the blockchain governance now, not the exchanges pilfered funds. That's why they're going to power them back down very quickly, to reduce the financial harm to their clients they defrauded when they seized those funds, powered them up, and used the owner's rights to vote with them.

03.03.2020 04:49
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This should be a lesson to all witnesses and all fools around here who were against fork 0.22.2.

Happy now? This is what they wanted all along....

02.03.2020 11:00
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If they didn’t do that, he would not have shown his true dictator face. Now I am glad they did the soft fork. Better to know earlier who you are dealing with than later.

02.03.2020 11:11
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Oh...we knew exactly who we were dealing with. It’s just that some people are romantically naive...

Do we really expect some progress at that meeting? Sheeesh....

02.03.2020 11:19
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I didn’t. Now I know.

02.03.2020 11:23
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I was giving him the benefit of the doubt that he could have been a good guy before shitting bricks but clearly never trust a commie.

02.03.2020 11:34
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This should be a lesson to all witnesses and all fools around here who were against fork 0.22.2.

My objection to 22.2 was that it did not fix anything and in some comments even mentioned that a "...billionaire could still but majority stake tomorrow". Guess this is tomorrow. The lesson to be learned is don't take a knife to a gun fight and don't piss off a billionaire.

02.03.2020 15:13
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There wouldn’t be a consensus to freeze a giant stakeholder’s assets if they purchased their stake in the open market.

As a matter of fact this would have skyrocketed the price and would have been beneficial for everyone. Do you feel benefited now?????

This stake was mined...illegally...and transferred to the highest bidder whose intentions were unknown....or should I say...known?

02.03.2020 15:29
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My position is that, perhaps, one solution might have been a body of second thought, much like second bodies found in most democracies. IE Senates, Legislature/Congresses.

We could have a requirement of 51% of all active witnesses for code approval and only the top 20 to decide on a version for consideration as the next HF.

Anyway better minds may have a better solution.. Yet even if forked this issue must be addressed in future versions of DPoS.

02.03.2020 21:51
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"This stake was mined..."

All stake was. Every Steem was mined, except those produced by inflation and delivered as rewards - based on the mined stake.

"...illegally..."

[citation needed]

"... transferred to the highest bidder..."

You have some inside information on the negotiations? Care to share?

Assumptions aren't facts.

03.03.2020 04:37
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I'd like to come up with something really intelligent and wise to say but I'm a bit speechless at the moment. So...

Fuck you, cock-knocker, will have to suffice.

That's all.

Actually...

Asshole!

There. That is all.

02.03.2020 11:02
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02.03.2020 11:04
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02.03.2020 11:04
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02.03.2020 11:05
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Finally! Thank you.

02.03.2020 11:07
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So, what does this hard fork do exactly?

02.03.2020 11:11
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Are these all new witnesses or are they just voted up in ranking?

02.03.2020 11:12
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Fake witnesses.

02.03.2020 11:21
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They are running a single server for all those witnesses most likely

02.03.2020 11:34
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Just a thought:
If it is a single server and this server goes down (DDOS, Corona, fire) all 20 "witnesses" were gone, right? Who would take their position and what are their rights @netuoso?

Just a thought ...

02.03.2020 13:18
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If the server went down the witnesses would miss blocks and the chain latency would increase. Since the witnesses have higher votes than any others, they would not get voted out and the chain would suffer degradation of quality.

Eventually the chain would become fully unstable.

02.03.2020 14:17
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OK - I somehow hoped the system would replace them with the next available ones - but I guess you know that :)

So that's no option - thanks for explaining it to me!!!

02.03.2020 14:21
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With that in mind, on February 13th, both TRON and Steemit planned to meet to discuss the future road map, with respect of the Steem community.

Either that is a typo and you Mean MARCH 13th, or you are full of shit.

Please confirm.

02.03.2020 11:13
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seems about right .. hold a meeting on Friday the 13th .. fits with the rest of the train wreck moves

02.03.2020 13:53
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I think it was an issue with clarity. What they meant to say is that they met on Feb 13th and plan to meet at an unspecified date.
In anycase, this is a disaster. 20 witnesses and their supporters (I personally didn't like all of them) is certainly better than 1 person.

02.03.2020 14:18
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Feb 13th would have put a meeting the day before the acquisition was announced .. the Steemit team found out the same way we did on the 14th so I think Feb. should have read March

And yes 20 people we know are real is always preferable to 20 sock puppets and one puppeteer

02.03.2020 15:23
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I was just thinking the same it was late Friday afternoon here (korean time) so it was definitely not the 13. In anycase, I don't think they care about this. The point is it is their puppet show now.

02.03.2020 15:32
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Using the stake from exchanges to take over the blockchain is a crime. This is a stupid move from you Justin. Now we all understand that you are as bad as Ned.

You open your big mouth to talk today and give an announcement. Where did you keep your azz on 13th when all this shit happened.

I guess this one action will make people understand how bad you are. Such a shame!!

Today may not be the end of Steem but this place will be full of shit. Sad day for the community.

02.03.2020 11:13
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Did you know that we HAD a tool that could prevent that?
https://developers.steem.io/apidefinitions/#broadcast_ops_decline_voting_rights
It was explicitely designed for this reason: lock-out voting rights of accounts that should not be able to vote at all. Sounds like exchanges' virtual/technical accounts, right? I'm so sad that I accidentally learned about that operation only like a week ago.. [thanks to inertia186's https://github.com/steemit/steem-ruby/blob/f477239d45212fd2294f68364c32b80f91f42089/test/steem/broadcast_test.rb#L38 :) ]

02.03.2020 11:56
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It's hard not to agree with most of your points @bala41288

I wonder how things would look if soft fork wouldn't happen. The moment when this fork took place - I felt that our community declared open conflict with Justin and I figured that if I were him - I would do anything and everything to remove current witnesses from their positions. I really feel that we didn't give him any reason to avoid doing it.

Cheers, Piotr

02.03.2020 12:04
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WhatisTHIS.jpg

This is insane.

Is this legal?

It certainly feels disgusting.

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02.03.2020 11:13
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Seems to me the exchanges violated the fiduciary trust they held to keep the funds safe when they stole them and exercised the right of ownership to use them to vote on witnesses. The actual owners of the funds were deprived of their votes by the actions of the exchanges (an abstention is a vote), and now the blockchain is irreparably harmed and financially diminished as a result.

Multiple grounds for tort action to seek remedies IMHO. Sadly, IANAL, although I'm told I should be. Mostly because I argue so much.

03.03.2020 05:04
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Y'all have to come to your senses and stop lying to yourselves.

Steemit is centralised and that's why it can be sold away, but #Bitcoin? Nobody can buy that crypto tech, moreover its owner is anonymous making ít even more decentralised.

When the dust settles and many come to this realization, they will be trembling like a jackhammer

Justin wants to use Steemit for his own gain then dump y'all...

02.03.2020 11:14
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But I can't post my blog on Bitcoin.
There was hope that Steem could be trully decentralised (and it was being slowly but surely).
This has set things back a long way.

02.03.2020 12:06
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Exactly, as @apshamilton said: "I can't post my blog on Bitcoin."

Bitcoin's goal is to be digital gold. But digital gold doesn't mean anything inside of this same game where the bankers & governments control all the currencies and internet connections...

Blockchain tech is drastically more important than being a new shiny quarter. But that's not because of BTC, it's because of things like Steem, Ethereum, LBRY, etc.

02.03.2020 22:52
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02.03.2020 11:15
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Well, you single-handedly taking over the witnesses and changing the powerdown to 20 days will tank the value and send ppl running.

I just came back to Steem a few weeks ago after 2 years. Now I'm thinking that's a bad idea.

Way to make an Oligarchy claiming to be decentralized even worse...

02.03.2020 11:17
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Is that 20 day powerdown in the new code?

02.03.2020 11:26
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Sorry, I mistyped...I meant 24hrs, it's early here.

It says above that Justin will be changing powering down to 24hrs to bring it in line with other blockchains.

02.03.2020 11:32
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Don't worry; if he manages to pull it off (which right now he can't, we stopped consensus by coming together as a community!), we'll just HardFork away. <- I'm kind of hoping for that anyway myself.

04.03.2020 01:40
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I'm not to worried, just a little anxious to move forward. Unfortunately, I doubt that forward movement will include the necessary changes to Steems governance, so this doesn't happen again.

04.03.2020 01:44
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天王蓋地虎,反流氓政府! Uranus is a tiger, an anti-rogue government!
寶塔鎮河妖,中共挨千刀! The Pagoda Zhenhe Yao, the Chinese Communist Party suffers thousands of swords!
嘟∼嘟嘟,開涮習頭豬! Toot ~ Toot, learn about pigs!
嘀∼嘀嘀,拉下習主席! pull down President Xi!

TRONNIE SCUM COMMIE SCUM!!! FUCK YOU TO HELL AND BACK, CUNTS!

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02.03.2020 11:18
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Why is there no PR, release, commit or link to 22.5 that I can find? How can we validate what these new witnesses are running?

Posted using Partiko Android

02.03.2020 11:18
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It looks like they just published the code actually. There is a pull request on their github https://github.com/steemit/steem/pull/3618

02.03.2020 12:31
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I created my account on 24 December of 2017. I had never used the Power Down feature ... until now.

With this scammy move, you've killed this Network. It's time for me to cash out, while I still can.

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Thank you, Justin Bieber, for being such a dishonest prick.

02.03.2020 11:23
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You're powering down, ok, I myself am considering that. But, as the exchanges cooperate with "them", are you sure you really can withdraw your funds? ;)

02.03.2020 11:58
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Thankfully I was using Bittrex and Blocktrades, which don't appear to be accomplices in this criminal takeover.

02.03.2020 13:10
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Lol, Not Bieber but Sun. If care its not taken, the sunlight of steemit might soon go off

02.03.2020 11:59
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I said Bieber because this move was very childish.

02.03.2020 21:35
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Oh I get now

03.03.2020 23:36
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I am sorry for the American community when they wake up to this.

02.03.2020 11:27
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Worst thing to wake up to in a very long time.

02.03.2020 12:35
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Sorry, I think everyone is in shock and didn't want to wake you.

02.03.2020 13:30
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Gah! We should have hard forked and not given them the benefit of the doubt that they were decent human beings.

02.03.2020 13:38
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I think a Hardfork will probably be in the works right now.

02.03.2020 13:46
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Yeah. Unfortunately it is the only solution at this point.

02.03.2020 13:49
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If you were against the soft fork I'd love to hear what you have to say now

02.03.2020 11:27
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I was against the soft fork and I still am. You dont resolve issues by escalating.

02.03.2020 11:33
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You don't that's correct, but you do show peoples character when you escalate!

02.03.2020 11:38
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02.03.2020 11:36
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You're just trying to stir things up aren't you

02.03.2020 14:24
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I have got to start watching that cooking show...

02.03.2020 22:48
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Yes I am against the soft fork as I do not believe in censorship. I think that 0.22.2 just didn't work at all

02.03.2020 11:48
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Well, I guess you sort of got your way since they're just jumped over the soft fork! I think it was a good acid test for the new management and they failed with this move

02.03.2020 11:53
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The witnesses probably should have tried to talk about this before taking actions to freeze steemit's accounts.

I remember the last time there was as little as a whisper about forking steemit's stakes, ned started powering down. They agreed such a thing won't happen as long as he accepted to use the stakes for development purposes, which he did.

Under new leadership, we should have reached out to rediscuss those terms first. But no, we had to act out of fear by freezing their stakes first. At that point, our intent didn't matter to Justin Sun. He bought the company with his money and he had to protect his assets from threats.

I also think we must have been pretty dumb to think it was okay for ned to sell steemit with all that stake in the first place. If we believed it didn't belong to him, freezing it was a move we should have done a long, long time ago.

02.03.2020 14:20
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From what I read, they tried to reach out and got radio silence and saw an opportunity to force comms with the soft fork before they were voted out like what has just happened. I think the end result is basically the same, they would have been kicked out sooner or later.

It's just good to see the length at which these so-called decentralisation evangelists are willing to go to keep control, he showed his hands and it looks plenty filthy to me, but that's just my opinion

02.03.2020 14:47
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The reason for me being against 22.2 was that it did not fix the problem of a majority stake holder in a universal way but instead targeted specific accounts which broke the trust of the chain. STINC's actions has proven me correct on the first point and it is hard to see how that trust can be fixed.

02.03.2020 15:37
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Yea sure it didn’t fix anything but I just thought it was to get discussions going over what to do with it since a new stake holder could do what they did now! I thought it was about agreeing new social contracts that community would be okay with I read a post about proposals on what to do with the stake which sounded good

Anyway thing of the past now

02.03.2020 15:57
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RIP STEEM

02.03.2020 11:29
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Unfortunately, the Witnesses’ decision created a need to reclaim the stake and vote in new witnesses to usher in new policies for a healthier ecosystem and community.

Haha thanks for showing that we were right all along. SteemIt stake was supposed to be nonvoting so you colluded with exchanges to bypass DpoS governance just like you did on your shit chain Tron

Ladies and gentlemen, Steemit is now owned by the Chinese government. Bow down and salute your communist overlords

02.03.2020 11:30
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They know how to push opposing comments down too. So stupid.

02.03.2020 11:52
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They are socialusts,...
theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-there-is-no-communism-in-russia

Rule by force is the disease, who and how are symptoms.

03.03.2020 02:53
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Calm down, people!
Without community, these boys are worth nothing. Let them enjoy their shit show!

02.03.2020 11:31
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@justinsunsteemit studied in the typical #mkultra inductee universities and became the new trojan horse for Gen Y wannabee trusted Knight Steemplars of the CCP & PLA.

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A fantasy journey of "post-90s entrepreneurial leaders"
This is the longest push of GQ24 in history. It gathers two character reports published in the August issue, which respectively record the growth path and spiritual world of the two "time youths". One of them is Sun Yuchen from Peking University and the other is Liang Zhi from Tsinghua University.

http://www.gq.com.cn/celebrity/news_182560eb97720e71.html

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gq.com.cn%2Fcelebrity%2Fnews_182560eb97720e71.html

02.03.2020 11:32
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

02.03.2020 11:34
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I couldn't have said it better myself.

02.03.2020 12:35
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Classic Trumpman lol

02.03.2020 13:13
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It's funny how people are taking a stance against Steemit taking a unilateral decision with this when this is exactly what the witnesses did not long ago with the soft fork. Both things happened within closed meetings with code that wasnt spoken of until it was in place.

02.03.2020 11:36
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On top of the rest, Ben (one of Ned's account) is now heavily the 95% of the community that is standing to them, and upvoting the other 5% of scumbags.

Centralization : Done
Censure : Done

Good job, Steem looks more and more like China by the minute.

02.03.2020 11:36
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Roadmap without dates is a dream.

02.03.2020 11:36
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Holy shit, didn't see that coming. You're actually trying to establish an order with premined stake and while decentralizing this place? Haha
Fuck this shit, you actually showed that soft for was absolutely neccessary. Btw i dont think you have 15 mil active users, whole crypto combined doesnt have that number 😂😂😂

02.03.2020 11:41
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we know who's behind his ass

03.03.2020 05:20
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What a load of bullcrap. This blockchain was living off of the interactions and the community. And now you are destroying it for personal gains. Textbook superiority complex..

02.03.2020 11:41
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Whatever its best for the community, like Justin said in his Open letter, that he will be having a meeting with 50 witnesses. I think it is time for that. MSP waves can make the discussion faster. This is time for everyone to work together

02.03.2020 11:41
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Of which 20 is him? lol

02.03.2020 11:53
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lmao

02.03.2020 14:28
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Well, today is the day steem dies. As a witness I am sorry, we tried hard to prevent this from happening but the game was rigged from the start.

02.03.2020 11:41
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These are the consequences when one person @ned decides to sell, all that talk about decentralization was just a marketing trick, dpos proved to be a flawed system, specially if you include premined coins.

What can I say this was the worst imaginable start of new partnership, witnesses did a radical move with softfork, steemit inc did even more radical move with voting in new witnesses. The trust is ruined for sure on both sides.

With all this going on I have a legitimate fear that I wasted almost 4 years of my life on this blockchain. Things will calm down as they always do, but being an active Steemian during these days of radical moves is not easy at all.

02.03.2020 11:42
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These are the consequences when one person @ned decides to sell, all that talk about decentralization was just a marketing trick, dpos proved to be a flawed system, specially if you include premined coins.

Have seen some convincing articles exploring in-detail the weakness of dPOS. POW also has its flaws and susceptibilities but it seems dPOS's are greater, from what little I know.

What can I say this was the worst imaginable start of new partnership, witnesses did a radical move with softfork, steemit inc did even more radical move with voting in new witnesses. The trust is ruined for sure on both sides.

From the very beginning press releases it was failed communication and lack of trust on every level.

With all this going on I have a legitimate fear that I wasted almost 4 years of my life on this blockchain. Things will calm down as they always do, but being an active Steemian during these days of radical moves is not easy at all.

One year less for me, and yes I put large sums of $$ and (far more valuable to me) energy/life into this place. However, I am confident that I will not look back with regret given the lessons I've learned and relationships I've built. Completely agree that this is a difficult time to be involved, past few weeks have been absolutely crazy!

03.03.2020 02:14
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As a community member i am totally against the actions of steemit and tron to hostilely take over the steem blockchain. This wont pan out well for any body. The beginning of the end.

02.03.2020 11:42
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Why the softfork 0.22.2 didn't prevent this?

How this was done?

They used the funds in several exchanges to power up. Concretely:

Account Steem Power Time of Power up
@binance-hot 31 730 053.775 SP March 2
@huobi-withdrawal 8 002 101.000 SP March 2
@poloniex 2 293 743.643 SP March 2
@ben 1 536 362.853 SP Last year (Feb 2019)
@bitdev100 800 109.047 SP March 2
@pacemaker 636 317.641 SP March 2
@joe767676 240 516.435 SP March 2
@imadev 227 153.927 SP
@geos 180 006.613 SP March 2

In total 45.6 million Steem Power... This is more or less the steem power that the previous witnesses received in votes.

They needed at least 17 new witnesses in the top 20 in order to apply a new fork... With this amount of power it is possible, then they changed the top witnesses.

The new fork allowed Steem account to vote for witnesses... then finally they used this power to vote for the new witnesses, which is around 60 million more steem power. So, at the end, they reached 106 million steem power in votes (more than double the previous witnesses).

All the funds of these exchanges are powered up, meaning they will not work for steem for at least 3 months (unless they added a short quit power down only for this group, take this in mind).

Bittrex didn't participate in this movement. They still have liquid steem (15 million in total). So the alternative to sell (if you want) is using Bittrex or Blocktrades.

Very bad days. I want to sell.

02.03.2020 11:42
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On the contrary, this looks like an interesting time ! Finally, steem elicits interest ! Rather than a sleepy old blockchain, this move which seems a relatively straightforward power fight will probably hit the headlines !

There is no such thing as "bad publicity" :-)

02.03.2020 11:53
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Bring the popcorn!

02.03.2020 12:19
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02.03.2020 15:48
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Yeah, hitler was in the news a lot. happy days.

02.03.2020 13:12
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Yeah, I enjoyed this move too. 🥳🍿
!popcorn

02.03.2020 13:44
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02.03.2020 15:55
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You say "interesting times" I say "the Chinese Communist Party has used their investment in Tron to gain control of yet another social media landscape they can control the narrative of"

Don't be so naive. This is the epitome of "bad publicity" for the security and integrity of the network. This chain has become Eastern controlled. Enjoy

02.03.2020 13:54
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Why do you think this has something to do with the Chinese Communist Party?

02.03.2020 20:45
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Because Justin/Tron/Poloniex/Binance/Huobi are all under the thumb of the Chinese government.

02.03.2020 21:58
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What is the evidence for that claim?

02.03.2020 23:13
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They are chinese?
Seriously, dn't be lulled by the west's apathy, js does what he is told, or he gets his organs harvested for sale on the open market.

03.03.2020 02:31
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.... until we realize @justinsuntron and exchanges paid hush-money to the major crypto outlets so this story does not see the daylight.

02.03.2020 15:09
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Hmm... Whose money were on these exchanges' acccounts? The exchanges' customers? IANAL but these exchanges clearly don't respect their customers' rights to their assets

02.03.2020 13:45
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ddos binance and houbi?

02.03.2020 15:18
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What happens if most of the people withdraw their steem from exchanges ? Within 24 h period

02.03.2020 19:30
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They can't. All that STEEM was powered up today, to allow for the witness voting. Anyone trying to withdraw will have to wait 13 weeks; they already turned off the option to even request withdrawals on Binance apparently.

02.03.2020 21:59
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Surely that can’t be legal

02.03.2020 22:12
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We'll see. Folks are looking into the legal/lawful side of things as well.

02.03.2020 22:13
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If it isn't illegal, or the exchanges get away with it anyway, I strongly recommend folks do with exchanges as I do with banks: refuse to do business with them at all.

Citi stole from me, and the legal system enabled them to do it. As a result I am now aware that banks are vectors for thievery, and I don't put money in them. I never ever, will again.

Don't do busines with a thief or a liar, or you will lose money.

03.03.2020 03:35
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Why are you thinking of selling your stake? No one going to propose a hardfork instead?

03.03.2020 06:36
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Good question.

Let's consider two scenarios:

Scenario 1
There is no hard fork. Exchanges and Steemit Inc decide to unvote Tron witnesses (Binance already did it). I suppose that there will be some type of agreement, and previous witnesses will come back.
This is showing me that there is still a power that can take control again in the future. People will not like this, and they will want to sell.

Scenario 2
There is a hard fork.

  • Assume that we remove the Steem Power of Steemit Inc. Then people will feel that the exchanges could take the control again in the network. They will want to sell.
  • Then assume that we remove the tokens from these exchanges. A lot of investors will lose their money. Remember that the price of steem is thanks to investors, then we need a plan for them.
  • Ok, we need a plan for these investors, then exchanges still have tokens but we restrict the power up. In this case the exchanges could distribute these tokens between several accounts, difficult to trace, and use these new accounts to power up and take again control. We need a different plan.
  • Ok, lets go with this plan: All tokens in these exchanges will lose the right to vote for witnesses. If an investor sends this token to another one then the receptor will lose the right to vote for witnesses using this token. I mean, we create 2 accounting systems: One that uses normal Steem, and another one with Steem LF (limited features) that have lose the right to vote for witnesses. I already proposed this to some witnesses, but there is no good feedback from them, principally because we are creating a new token, which will confuse the people and it's not good for mass adoption.

So, in conclusion it is not clear how to make the hardfork. Then most probably the first scenario will survive.

03.03.2020 09:58
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well can't we just restrict only for exchanges account? limited feature account should never be an option for normal users. Just a handful of exchanges account should be fine.

04.03.2020 03:24
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Yes. But what prevents them to create new accounts and transfer all the money there.
For instance, they create @binance-hot2 , transfer 31 million there, power up, and finally vote for witnesses. You can do this in few seconds.

04.03.2020 05:57
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Hmm now i start to see why eos voice needs kyc..

04.03.2020 07:05
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That's very good news! Good move from Steemit, Binance and Justin!

02.03.2020 11:43
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Good way! Make STEEM better platform for people!

02.03.2020 11:47
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Wow. What a day.

02.03.2020 11:47
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Well this is getting interesting. If you do call the previous softfork maliciously, this one also should be called malicious. No information has been given what is included in this harfork.
I guess we have to live with this fact at the moment, because according to the SP vested I was a so called call of the community!

Cheers,
Peter

02.03.2020 11:47
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Malicious was the intent, reaction was the reaction to malicious intent.
Naive beyond belief to believe anything else would have been the _re_action.

02.03.2020 12:37
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Dear @steemitblog

I've surely mixed feeelings about entire situation, however I do understand that recent soft fork could be seen as a hostile behaviour towards new major stakeholder. And I also thought that it could be potentially illegal to do what they did.

Already at that moment I thought that if I were Justin, then I would lose my faith in any chance of collaborating with current witnesses and I would feel pushed towards removing them. I'm very worried about future of steemit and steem blockchain - however I would most likely react the same way Justing did.

So to certain degree I understand what just happened, as I would do the same.

Enhancing the quality of user experience on Steemit.com by removing ads

Removing ads? I wonder why?

Yours, Piotr

02.03.2020 11:48
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What STINC did (shows how centralisation works) is much more harmfull to the future of Steem and all its services as well as community and foremost the trust and value of the Steem currency, then what the witnesses did with the previous softfork (shows how decentralisation works).

Ads: no income and just annoying the users. Revenue model in cryptospace shall not be based on old world models like add.

02.03.2020 12:48
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Thank you @edje for your comment

02.03.2020 21:48
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It's me again @edje

Thanks for your previous comment.

I would need to ask you for little favour. Recently I've decided to join small contest called "Community of the week" and I desribed our project.hope hive/community. Would you mind helping me out and RESTEEM this post - just to get some extra exposure? Your valuable comment would be also appreciated.

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

03.03.2020 10:11
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Hmm... So I happy I just powered up x)

02.03.2020 11:53
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😂 😂

02.03.2020 21:08
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Decentralised means freedom of speech mate. Obviously that's not a thing here anymore...Nice $18 downvote on my previous comment.

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02.03.2020 11:55
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What a dickless owner on Steemit inc. and whole Steemit team is built from fucking losers. No wonder how Steemit.com has always been a fucking disaster, when people are spineless and stupid as hell.

Enjoy flagging all critical comments and pretending to care about the community? You have no value.

02.03.2020 11:58
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Thinking positively is good. I do hope more users from Tron will be able to enjoy the experience that steemit has given us and also enjoy playing splinterlands game. I already have used tronlink and wallet to buy dec for the ingame. It would be great to see a post on tron based games in here too so that we people can also learn more about it.

I am a nearly veteran user of steemit and associated apps and I just do not want to be taken in by the FUD that is circling our heads as of now. We are all users who have invested both time, money and even based our life around this website and are really scared about what will happen to us steemians. So, I hope you guys will keep the steem side of it and hope it will not affect us all badly.

Wishing you all the best of luck and may good happen to all.

02.03.2020 11:58
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What the hell?!
"New witness" accounts were created yesterday and today they are steem witness? How? Everything is on the blockchain.
What we can learn from TRON? How to centralize the ecosystem? How to impose censorship?
THIS IS NOT STEEM WHAT WE WANT TO!
Only #SteemClassic

02.03.2020 11:59
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you think that this place is censorship free? lol
there are plenty of censored accounts here for sharing inconvenient truths !
one of them is mine

03.03.2020 07:26
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Deploy in the next Hard Fork as soon as possible to reduce power down time to 1-3 days in alignment to other mainstream blockchains, while open for discussion for better economic implications.

Dang! This is kind of good. I'd go for 3 days just to offer some protection from hackers.]

For the next 4-6 weeks, the Steemit team will be using the voting rights to resume the order of the community .........

02.03.2020 12:00
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Today, the Steem blockchain as we know it died. Implement the hardfork so I can take out my stake and leave.

02.03.2020 12:07
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Soft Fork 22.2 was maliciously structured, intending to freeze a handful of very targeted accounts and taking away their rights and possession to their owned asset, and may be deemed illegal and criminal.

Wow. Somebody doesn’t know how blockchains or p2p works.

02.03.2020 12:12
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I think 80% here have no idea about DPoS and the plutocracy that comes with it.

02.03.2020 13:01
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This isn't about DPoS. It's simply not illegal or criminal to patch a f/oss p2p app running on your own machine, which is what the witnesses did. This ain't a bank account, it's a blockchain: it's a game where everything's made up and the points don't matter.

Nobody "froze" an account, because there are no accounts and nothing to steal.

02.03.2020 13:31
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How many sock puppets does ned still control?

How long do you think it will take the ninjamine too be sold into stronger hands?

03.03.2020 03:21
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It looks like they just published the code. There is a pull request on their github. https://github.com/steemit/steem/pull/3618

02.03.2020 12:12
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RIP Decentralization !

Huobi and Binance are joining the party to overtake STEEM with their friend TRON.

Decentralization lost I guess...

Sad time for STEEM that actually proved it was decentralized when OUR witnesses resisted an hostile takeover with Justin Sun lying from the very st day !

02.03.2020 12:13
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Decentralization was lost long time ago.

02.03.2020 14:31
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It never really existed as long as the founder's stake did. The illusion of decentralization, freedom of speech, and all the rest were merely the result of @ned's largesse. Our freedom was what he wanted, so that's what he allowed.

03.03.2020 04:29
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02.03.2020 12:13
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open for discussion for better economic implications.

I have studied this Steem blockchain and ecosystem for over 2 years and have an understanding of how the different parts fit together.

The macro-economics of Steem is astonishingly stable and self-correcting.

The micro-economics needs some work as the same parameters of reward curve and curation split do not affect users in the way people seem to think. That needs some work - and some thinking.

I have spoken before to a previous Steemit Inc dev - was some time ago and about how to attenuate vote-rings. It didn't come to anything then, but feel free to get in touch on Discord (same username).

The other bullet points sound like what I had envisioned happening.

02.03.2020 12:13
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OT: isn't matrix/riot a good replacement?

02.03.2020 14:29
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AFAIK, there are no good implementations of the matrix protocol yet.keeping early versions steemdersions of steemd

02.03.2020 14:34
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Hi, seems a very long time ago!
Good article about security whenever a project actually needs to keep secrets.
Discord is just a convenient point of first contact. Actually using Tor on one project plus, as you say, pure email is not so bad and avoids chit chat.

03.03.2020 22:56
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It's not convenient. It requires that you show ID. Privacy is important for open source projects even if everything is public, because gatekeeping on identification is a form of discrimination against those that require privacy, either by preference or for safety.

It's nothing to do with whether or not a project needs to keep secrets.

04.03.2020 07:44
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In a response to this I have shutdown my Steem Apps for iOS and Android: https://steemwallet.app - removed from appstores.

Additional apps have already been shut down by their respective owners to signal distrust in the centralisation of the Steem Chain:

  • steemSql
  • Steemitboard
  • SteemApps
  • SmartSteem
  • SteemWallet.app for iOS & Android
  • dPOLL

C.R.A.Z.Y.

02.03.2020 12:13
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Good job!

Now that it's apparent forking doesn't work this is the best way to fight this kind of bullshit.

02.03.2020 12:28
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Sounds like an excellent idea to deprive 'The Community' you're claiming to fight for of the tools to interact with the blockchain. insert facepalm

02.03.2020 12:37
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Right? Some community support there.

02.03.2020 13:46
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They can be reactivated on a future forked chain which will be community based. No sense allowing justin Sun to benefit from their hard work.

02.03.2020 15:25
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Meanwhile, said community (assuming the aim is to move get everyone over to said hypothetical forked chain) has been blinded, maimed and deprived of their tools. Still not seeing how Steemit Inc or Justin Sun benefits or get's hurt by the removal of those tools.

If the aim is to 'seduce' all current chain users to come over to the new chain (again, there is none, so hypothetical) by taking away their tools on this chain, then it's certainly a hamfisted way of doing so.

I'm not seeing how this has anything to do with Justin Sun or SteemitInc benefiting from those tools. It's the community that benefits (or not right now) from them.

02.03.2020 15:34
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metcalfs law. The less ppl who use the cheem chain, the less it is worth. The more sun/tron fears they purchased a dud. Also it means that if steemit/tron wants to bring back these dev tools, they are going to have to spend their own money either for the hardware or the software development.

02.03.2020 18:56
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Ah I hadn’t realised we already went from trying to protect and safeguard our blockchain to razing it to the ground.

02.03.2020 19:49
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It's not our blockchain anymore.

Burn it down. Scorched Earth. It's a tactic. YMMV, but so does other's.

03.03.2020 03:39
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I don't agree with you.

I guess there is a first time for everything lol

03.03.2020 07:23
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I support this. All STEEM apps/infrastructure should protest by going dark and maybe even using a MEMO to inform all users of the hostile takeover and its implications.

@justinsuntron and @steemitblog should know that without the STEEM Community, Justin bought nothing but a big pile of worthless SHITcoins.

02.03.2020 15:07
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Steemit and the Steem community is one of a kind within the current blockchain landscape. It had its own history.

Downvoted this since it looks Rogue, all top witnesses are not original Steem Witnesses, all on 22.5 all on same income value....

If it looks like shit, smells like shit it must be..... Sorry just the way I feel!

02.03.2020 12:15
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Steem Soft Fork 0.22.5 is available now on github: https://github.com/steemit/steem/pull/3618

02.03.2020 12:17
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Your end is near...0.22.6 soon, please...

02.03.2020 12:21
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But who can make 22.6 when new top 20 witnesses are under his control?

02.03.2020 12:26
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Old top witnesses, I hope. Either way, I am done with Justin, Tron and his scams.

02.03.2020 12:28
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Sure. But my money's on the exchanges and steemit.com remaining pointed at the ninja-fork. Without websites, a Steem Classic fork (or would it be simply Steem, as Ethereum Classic is the one that declined to arbitrarily impose new state) would probably not really go anywhere.

It seems that the exchanges have already placed their bets; a chain without liquidity isn't a very relevant chain.

02.03.2020 13:36
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You're a very rare kind of loser.

02.03.2020 13:21
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02.03.2020 13:26
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remove your witness votes for this fork. Put it back into the witnesses running 22.2. Your investment in steem is about to become worthless is you don't-just like the rest of ours.

If you are a steemit employee/contractor, please do the right thing and send them a resignation letter and protest the CCP takeover. Might want to release 22.6 and install which deletes all the coins held by houbi, binance, and steemit inc too. That'll be interesting when the exchanges who robbed this community realize they can no longer pay back the real owners of the coin.

02.03.2020 15:14
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I think Ned knew just what he was doing by selling to Tron. He knew how the Witnesses would act.

JSun should have known to call steemit, steemit and not steemy at the AMA. He should have known we are Steemians and the word SMT.

Think about what all has happened from the perspective of an angry person with a toy everyone wants that you own but no one likes you.

Now it is getting even better because everyone is fighting in the comments from fear and disbelief while watching our home fall apart.

Everyone knew how much money JSun has. Take away a new toy from someone and do you think they will be happy?

Would you? if you, meaning anyone on Steem, had a billion dollars and spent some pocket change on a new toy just sit back while people took it away from you.

Okay, not all of it away, but tied you up in a corner to sit and think about what you have not done yet...

We Steemian either ALL stick together and now wait or leave. Either way, fighting in the comments with each other and calling people names brings us Steemians farther apart not closer.

Now if you had just written the post above would you want everyone fighting and not talking to each other like below OR it quiet so you do not know what is going on?

Just my thoughts.......

02.03.2020 12:17
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Exactly. There was never any confusion on their end, but they sure instilled it with a few purposefully guided word raps and fed the dogs their bones. They have been giving @ned shit for years and trying to bully him into doing this that and the other. SO, he said, fine, you don't like me, ta hell with ya. Let someone else deal with you for awhile. Now, the new guy, isn't as tolerant as the last guy. He'll take his toys back and punch you in the damn face. Just sayin. It is sad everyone calling them names and when it comes right down to it, they haven't GIVEN THEM A GODDAM CHANCE TO DO ANYTHING YET. Sorry, got stupid there for a second.

02.03.2020 12:24
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The only stupid you got there is thinking he even needed a chance to do anything.

He doesn't need your chances. His mind was made up day one.

He doesn't need you in his new platform. He doesn't even need the community. There are enough people in China to fill the void.

02.03.2020 13:12
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We're all doomed! Run for the hills!

02.03.2020 13:32
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Tis a minor inconvenience.

02.03.2020 13:42
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Are you sure you are smart enough for this comment? 😂😂

02.03.2020 13:23
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Prolly not.

02.03.2020 13:48
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Who the fuck are you? You don't even have any stake here you poor little bitch.

02.03.2020 13:48
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I'm Batman! The Joker? The Riddler. Nobody.

02.03.2020 13:52
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Sorry, got stupid there for a second.

Just because your stupid does not mean you are not correct. 😎

02.03.2020 15:21
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Facts are facts. Regardless how people feel about them.

02.03.2020 15:59
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Socialism was imposed by steemit inc?

02.03.2020 12:19
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Way to prove how decentralized this platform is. I'm out. I knew as soon as the Sun rumors started in December that Steemit was deader than dicks. Why I decided to stick around is beyond me. Fuck the Steemit team. Individually and personally.

02.03.2020 12:20
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Floggings will continue until moral improves!

02.03.2020 12:23
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An important question to ask here is what was changed in the code of 0.22.5?

There is absolutely no documentation of it anywhere.

02.03.2020 12:23
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It looks like they just published the code actually. There is a pull request on their github https://github.com/steemit/steem/pull/3618

02.03.2020 12:27
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A little late on that.

02.03.2020 12:42
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It's actually not clear if that is the code they are running or not (according to witnesses in the town hall)

02.03.2020 22:47
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They even threatened to hard fork, and nullify all existing STEEM token, putting every good STEEM holder, developer and community interest at danger.

Where does this statement stem from?

02.03.2020 12:27
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From an obvious disinformation campaign spearheaded by Steemit Inc!

02.03.2020 13:23
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02.03.2020 12:32
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03.03.2020 06:37
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If power down window is 3 days then what will be post payout window?

02.03.2020 12:34
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Da fuck :-D !

02.03.2020 12:35
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Hmmmm, how does this work?
Hostile takeover is possible?

In Marketing they say: Bad news is also good; But I do wonder what happened here will do any good to Steem, as well as to the hard working community giving value to Steem.

Additionally: How is it possible to reward Witness more as well as Content creators and/or curators? Does STINC plans to change the Steem token generation algorithms? Floating more Steem per day, and increasing the total finite amount of Steem?

Am very concerned about the blah blah marketing message in this post; And the realisation no concrete information is given at all; Did you Guys really thought things through?

ps Too bad you guys didn’t pick up on the recent Tweet by Dan Larimer with his congratulations for the development of MIRA; Something he now considers to use at EOS. THAT message should’ve been used for Marketing purposes last few days; Not this blockchain takeover! Did you guys ever went to some sort of Business School?

02.03.2020 12:36
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This is very much against every aspect of the original purpose of decentralization and the core value of the Steem blockchain and community. We can’t let it happen.

Irony as thick as a rhinoceros' hide.

02.03.2020 12:37
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FORK YOU!

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02.03.2020 12:37
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An appeal to steemit users:

As this drama plays out, please reach out to the friends you’ve made here and make sure you stay connected even if this place falls apart. Love you all

02.03.2020 12:38
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What the fuck are you guys doing...?

02.03.2020 12:38
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The Party has come to take over I guess.

02.03.2020 14:01
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Holy crap - You've just shown your WILLING to do the EXACT same thing you are saying is HOSTILE to do?

  • If STEEMINC don't like something whats stops you doing the same thing in the future?
  • How can you build a trusting community when you don't value it.
  • Isn't it a bit hypocritical?
02.03.2020 12:39
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@steemitblog, @ned, @justinsunsteemit,
I can express my feeling by 2 words. (fk off)

Congratz you just made an unethical move and the chain became centralized. I think it's time to move to the STEEM Classic or whatever.

Cheers with your fking centralized sh!t

02.03.2020 12:44
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Well, the weird prt is: nothing illegal happened here... This was about to happenn
And we could have this move comin after soft fork22.2...

02.03.2020 12:46
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I wonder how the government regulators will feel about a single organization unambiguously unilaterally dictating the price feeds for the SBD conversion.

Now that the blockchain has a single operator, they can manipulate the SBD conversion rate to whatever they like.

2 Mar 2020: The day we learned that @dan's DPoS experiment is finally and incontrovertibly a failure.

02.03.2020 12:52
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with Exchanges, which can vote with not their funds.... from now every PoS can be considered as failure

02.03.2020 13:56
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It seems that they can and did. I don't even think there is a reasonable presumption that they should not. After all, the money is entrusted to them and is under their control. Why shouldn't they vote it?

02.03.2020 14:04
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Maybe they should be able to do that, maybe not. But for sure, locking up stake of their clients by converting to Steem Power (with all implications of that) IMO is a crime.

02.03.2020 14:08
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not your keys... etc. by sending DPoS tokens to an exchange, you give up your voting rights, and make them your "proxy".

I hate it too, but those are the rules.

02.03.2020 14:20
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Crimes aren't generally matters of opinion, and most cryptocurrency exchanges have "locked up" their customer funds offline for safety purposes, taking several days to access them from cold wallets. This doesn't seem that different to me.

What laws do you think have been broken, in which countries?

02.03.2020 14:33
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Philosophically I agree that whoever owns a token should be able to vote with it. (Nevermind the discussion of whether or not STINC was bound by their promise not to vote).

But any DPoS chain that wants me involved going forward need to have some sort of mechanism that still prevents this type of take-over from being possible.

Maybe a delay in time from when tokens are staked to when they can be used to vote for witnesses/BP combined with max votes being reduced to 5 would be sufficient.

02.03.2020 14:26
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Because it deprives the actual owners of the funds, to whom they have a fiduciary trust, of their private right of ownership of those funds, which includes the right to vote.

No part of their contracted arrangement with exchanges forfeited that lawful right of ownership. The exchanges seized those funds and exercised ownership of them in violation of their fiduciary trust. Hanging's too good for 'em.

03.03.2020 04:25
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Surrendering the funds to a second party by depositing them to an exchange deprives the "actual owners of the funds" their right of private ownership of those funds.

Money in the bank isn't your money. It's the bank's money, and a corresponding liability to you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possession_is_nine-tenths_of_the_law

03.03.2020 04:39
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Possession is nine-tenths of the law
Possession is nine-tenths of the law is an expression meaning that ownership is easier to maintain if one has possession of something, or difficult to enforce if one does not. The expression is also stated as "possession is nine points of the law", which is credited as derived from the Scottish expression "possession is eleven points in the law, and they say there are but twelve."Although the principle is an oversimplification, it can be restated as: "In a property dispute (whether real or personal), in the absence of clear and compelling testimony or documentation to the contrary, the person in actual, custodial possession of the property is presumed to be the rightful owner. The rightful owner shall have their possession returned to them; if taken or used.

03.03.2020 04:39
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Money isn't voting rights, and Steem is. Powering it up does prevent it's use by it's rightful owners, and violates the fiduciary trust these exchanges undertake.

03.03.2020 05:51
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"Right now, the only thing getting pegged are the existing holders of STEEM."

Kudos! I confess to admiring your way with words here.

Thanks!

03.03.2020 04:23
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Nuff said.

02.03.2020 12:55
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Saw that too huh🤔😆

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02.03.2020 23:30
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On March 2, 2020, Steemit regained the staked accounts, so as to course correct the hostile behavior led by a small group of people, and resume the order of the community.

Bullshit. Not only were these people among the most trusted and well respected members of the community but by slandering them in this way and the overwhelming majority stakeholders that vetted them with their STAKE and supported the hf in effort of keeping the integrity of our chain as intact as possible, you've revealed yourselves as two faced liars. You do not care about the integrity of the project, especillay as the hf you deem hostile was in response to direct threats of underming the entire EcoSystem by having it moved over to Tron, as numerous sources have reported Internal Communications and plans for this. You have nothing, no more thin veneer of respect, no more trust, you have forefited everything that you claim, including your stake, exactly by Undoing the CONSENSUS Fork, and we all know that Consensus is Law, you went Directly Against the code.

02.03.2020 12:56
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Not only were these people among the most trusted and well respected members of the community

Every witness that had my support and installed 22.2 lost my vote on the day it was announced. They broke the trust of the chain, regardless of what actions have followed.

02.03.2020 15:40
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Same. I couldn't abide the financial harm to a user the fork was intended to effect. They'd allowed @ned to have that power unforked for four years. Suddenly old @ned wasn't there to kick around anymore, and they took action.

Wasn't just. I can understand - and now we see - why they acted, but it was too late, and blaming @ned isn't an explanation. What are they blaming him for? He had this power for years and never used it.

@justinsunsteemit did use it. He should not have had that power to use, if this was a decentralized blockchain. It never has been - except as the party capable of solitary governance of the blockchain mandated it be, and that's what @ned mandated by not using the stake to centralize it.

03.03.2020 04:59
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Touche!

03.03.2020 09:58
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I should be calm with the closing sentence This will be nothing but an exciting future. But reading a lot of worries in the comments column, my eyes turn dark.

Is this the beginning of the end?

02.03.2020 12:58
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"Decentralized"... A word with little meaning to the steemit team it seems. :) Good job on fucking everything up.

02.03.2020 13:00
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Go fuck yourselves.

02.03.2020 13:02
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I can't help but stand back and slow clap!

I do not ever debate the idea of "right" or "wrong" , but I do appreciate playing chess which has moves and counter moves.

Anyone can see there has been actions and reactions. It seems like the witnesses idea to protect the chain was to use gasoline to put out a fire that wasn't even burning yet due to fear...and now it is burning.

I think when it comes to decisions that are made it is simple...if someone makes a decision they should be willing to live with whatever comes from their decisions...... Welcome to #newsteem 😂😃

02.03.2020 13:03
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Well put hombre. Who in their right mind, knowing it could be easily countered, would have done what they did? Just saying. It was like going to play football against the Seahawks when all they knew how to play was Jenga.

02.03.2020 14:09
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You know what? This might be fair. I figured that increased interoperability and continued maintenace of Steem instead of abandonment or replacement is good. I want that. I like Steem a lot.

Lets find a crossroads people, and get through this. Steem on.

02.03.2020 13:04
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This is so funny. You are all criminals!

02.03.2020 13:10
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Breathe everyone. This may seem crazy, but things will work themselves out and correct. The technology stack is what makes steem, steemians make it home. Our home has been a bit cluttered lately, maybe a cleanup is what's needed?

Where do your values lay?

Because if it's decentralization, go for the pure decentralized services, the ones not involving currency, the ones doing it because it's the right thing.

If it's because you "get paid for your content", this takeback is the right thing, because it shows that the blockchain integrity of wallets, won't be compromised.

You can change the deck at a poker game, but you can never steal someone's chips. The decks been stacked, time to shuffle it.

02.03.2020 13:12
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02.03.2020 13:20
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I shall follow you in just sit back and relax on my large coach and view the war unfolding :)

02.03.2020 15:29
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U got the best idea on how to react to this mess!

07.03.2020 15:45
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So basically steemit has full control over everything that goes into the steem blockchain.
1-3day powerdown. WTF!!! we never wanted that. We already had a massive debate about it saying anything lower than 4 weeks seem risky due to how account recovery works and such.

You've already thrown in a ton of things you are planning on doing without even consulting the community and we have no say now cause you've just demonstrated that at any point in time you can take full control of the blockchain.

There is absolutely no way anyone can trust the blockchain as it is now. There is no decentralized governance anymore as you've just demonstrated.

Well done.

02.03.2020 13:21
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There was never a decentralized governance system in place to begin with.

10.03.2020 23:55
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Exchanges voting with customer funds to remove all 20 community voted witnesses is a criminal action! This is exactly what the community wanted to prevent by temporarily freezing the ninja-mined assets of Steemit. On the plus site we and the crypto community as a whole are now learning a great lesson about the weaknesses of a DPOS system and how to improve it in the future. We need to deescalate the situation now and work an a better Steem 2.0 which is more decentralized.

02.03.2020 13:33
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This post by @apshamilton sums thing up rather well...

HF 22.5: Binance, Poloniex & Houbi Take over Steem

https://steempeak.com/palnet/@apshamilton/hf-22-5-binance-poloniex-and-houbi-take-over-steem

02.03.2020 13:35
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Deploy in the next Hard Fork as soon as possible to reduce power down time to 1-3 days in alignment to other mainstream blockchains, while open for discussion for better economic implications.

You know I am not a crypto guy, I don't have much knowledge about what's going on.

But fucking hell, 1-3 days to power down ?? That's criminal

Make it at least a week, or more.
Powering up should mean commitment.

02.03.2020 13:36
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Not to mention it was protection against hacks and phishing. Now if someone gets hold of your keys they can instantly cash out. Before this you had time to initiate Steem's account recovery process and secure your account before you lost your money.

02.03.2020 14:22
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02.03.2020 13:38
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The TRON Foundation is committed to add value and grow the Steem ecosystem and intends to use part of the Steemit stake for such executions.

Translation: 0.1% constitutes a part.

usher in new policies for a healthier ecosystem and community.

Translation: complete control by TRON.

may be deemed illegal and criminal

Translation: we didn’t like it.

The group behind this could essentially do this kind of attack to any Steem community member

Translation: The group behind this was never going to do this for any stake other than ninja-mined.

On March 2, 2020, Steemit regained the staked accounts, so as to course correct the hostile behavior led by a small group of people, and resume the order of the community.

We smashed the will of the community who’d voted for witnesses of their choice and imposed our will.

The Steem blockchain will not be abandoned or merged to TRON unless the community decides so.

Translation: Since the witnesses we select are the community deciders, the Steem blockchain will be abandoned or merged to TRON.

Deploy in the next Hard Fork as soon as possible

Translation: There will be no discussion, as there have been with ALL other Hard Forks. Your corporate overlord knows what’s best.

For the next 4-6 weeks, the Steemit team will be using the voting rights to resume the order of the community

Translation: Until the next Plenary Session, The Central Committee of the Politburo will exercise unfettered executive control.

After the 4-6 weeks period, the Steemit team will give the governance back to the community when it’s back in order and mutual agreement.

Translation: Once we have broken the back of those who dared to oppose the Central Authority, the governance of the puppet state of New Manchukuo will be in place.

02.03.2020 13:39
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our corporate overlord knows what’s best.

Communist*

02.03.2020 13:59
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theanarchistlibrary.org/library/emma-goldman-there-is-no-communism-in-russia

Rule by force is the disease, who and how are symptoms.

03.03.2020 02:57
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One caveat: no one seems to understand this, but all Steem was ninjamined, or produced via inflation. Every Steem. All of it.

03.03.2020 04:06
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I had hope when you bought Steemit but now it’s all over. Community, maybe we can come together and start one last initiative? An international powerdown day.

02.03.2020 13:40
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Wow. What a "eye for an eye" movement.

After one side did soft fork to remove other side's "rights" without any public conversation/discussion,

the other side came back with the same sneak attack and got its "rights" back.

Things are getting interesting. Look forward to the town hall meeting.

02.03.2020 13:40
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Thank you, but I'm done with this version of Steem. If community chosen witnesses decide to fork to Steem Classic or whatever then I go with them, but this here is the last straw. Time to power down and leave.

02.03.2020 13:43
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This post talks so much about TRON

I came to this platform because of STEEM . . .

02.03.2020 13:43
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"open channel for meeting community members and Witnesses"
that is really easy now that one man is controlling all the witnesses. maybe he will be talking to himself. we want that live.

02.03.2020 13:58
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Maybe he will do another AMA where he is apparently/possibly/allegedly all coked out.

02.03.2020 14:15
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The 30 witnesses voting rule.
That is who to blame!

Lesson learned the hard way.

02.03.2020 14:00
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Most major lessons in life are usually learned the hard way. Call it animal complacency? Humans care about food, shelter, emotional/social needs first, everything else is extra and requires additional energy to care about.

03.03.2020 02:17
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Disappointed by this hostile take over of the Steem blockchain to say the least!

02.03.2020 14:01
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i dont know,

Both hardforks are not that good i think. Will this 1-3 Days powerdown stays forever? Because i dont like it.

02.03.2020 14:03
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Don't you want scammers to get away with your money or smth? Previously you had plenty of time to get your account back before someone else could get away with your funds in case of phishing. Now not so much, a brighter future indeed.

02.03.2020 14:18
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With any luck, the Steem price will surpass my DCA so I can exit to BitCoin or something.

02.03.2020 14:07
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I get to do another 100% downvote! This was the bullshit we were afraid of in the first place!

02.03.2020 14:09
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I usually hate government intervention... but I would be very happy to see the SEC investigate and prosecute you criminals.

02.03.2020 14:11
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"This is very much against every aspect of the original purpose of decentralization and the core value of the Steem blockchain and community. We can’t let it happen."

I think it just did.

02.03.2020 14:14
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Softfork 22.2 shouldn't have happened in the first place and more than half of the community was against it. Justin, being a rich and smart man with great connections would have anyway taken it back. I won't say that this is the right move to do it but he only had this choice left to get what it's his.

02.03.2020 14:17
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For those spreading disinformation (and for those who are curious) about Soft Fork 0.22.2 that was intended to prevent this sort of hostile takeover I recommend that you read the following article by @blocktrades

The Legal Basis of Cryptocurrency Forks

https://steempeak.com/cryptocurrency/@blocktrades/the-legal-basis-of-cryptocurrency-forks

02.03.2020 14:20
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remember, now that they control the witnesses-they are the community. So when they say the community decides....it means they decide.

Time to serve an injunction up their a__, if anyone has the money for such a suit.

02.03.2020 14:21
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anyone care to tell people what exchanges are doing with their coin? or i just did not know that is a normal thing.

02.03.2020 14:26
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Congratulations asshole, you just alienated the whole STEEM community.

02.03.2020 14:31
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Soft Fork 22.2 was maliciously structured, intending to freeze a handful of very targeted accounts and taking away their rights and possession to their owned asset, and may be deemed illegal and criminal.

Yes, it's hurt)))

02.03.2020 14:35
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What the what now? So... this was never a decentralized blockchain but a bad illusion of one? Shame I wasted so much time on it. Prepare for mass exodus and posts of community leaders announcing what crypto-blogging platform they're moving to. See you all there, I guess.

02.03.2020 14:41
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Where?

03.03.2020 00:51
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Not sure yet. Waiting to hear community leaders (aka witnesses) to decide. There's no shortage of options.

03.03.2020 08:11
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This is rather illuminating:

@ura-soul Witness Update - Anarchy vs. Empire: TRON Replaces Top Witnesses and Takes Over the STEEM Blockchain

https://steempeak.com/witness/@ura-soul/ura-soul-witness-update-anarchy-vs-empire-tron-replaces-top-witnesses-and-takes-over-the-steem-blockchain

02.03.2020 14:50
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A good video by @lukestokes explaining how STEEM on exchanges was used to vote in new witnesses.

Your stake in Steem on centralized exchanges was just used to take over the Steem Blockchain

https://steempeak.com/steem/@lukestokes/your-stake-in-steem-on-centralized-exchanges-was-just-used-to-take-over-the-steem-blockchain

02.03.2020 15:16
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China quality!

02.03.2020 15:18
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More Rewards to Witnesses

You mean more for yourself now that you just took over all top 20 witness spots with your sock puppet accounts? @justinsunsteemit

02.03.2020 15:25
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Hello Steemians, we apologize for not updating you sooner but the last thing we wanted to do was give you inaccurate or untruthful information. We have now met with the TRON team and are excited to share with you the outcome of those meetings.

you kinda lied just 3 days ago. and you are right, exciting things, you just forgot to tell that exciting things will be a hostile takeover.

Also i would like to say hello and thank you to people in SteemIt inc, as they know about this for sure.

02.03.2020 15:25
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This is very much against every aspect of the original purpose of decentralization and the core value of the Steem blockchain and community. We can’t let it happen.

Almost like something you've just done.

02.03.2020 15:25
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Giant cunts! It wasn't a small group it was most of the witnesses. Sounds like you just stole the user funds that were on the exchanges to do something illegal. Nice to see this is how Steem ends. In a pile of flames and rubble. Hoping to see the real witnesses hardfork Steemit and ALL their stake out! Enough of your ineffectiveness! Might be good to look at the number of people who are powering down as a good tell of what the user base thinks of this bullshit.

02.03.2020 15:26
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Pretty sure there will be a hardfork.

  • One side: tron, steemit inc, steemit.com, steemit.kr, steemconnect (maybe), their full nodes (the most important thing really)
  • Other side: the community, splinterlands, steempeak, keychain, 3speak, many others
    Unknown: many, specifically thinking esteem, dtube as important unknowns to me

My plan:

  • Stick with the community, keep my same stake on that chain (or increase, especially if price drops.)
  • Liquidate 100% (over time probably, depends on post-fork price) on tron-chain, remove all my content (replace it all with a redirect to my content on the community chain), use my down-votes against steemitron as I power down :-P
  • Revel in our new/old blockchain that has just removed a ~20% stake that was ill-gotten gains, PLUS we've gone through major crisis together, AND we got more news than ever before.
04.03.2020 01:05
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Thank you for enabling me to cash out quicker now that you have exposed the flaws to the control of this platform! We may have backed you into a corner but your inability to communicate does not show promise for our community! Do you fully understand that we are not just a blockchain investment to be controlled but a group of real people with interest that can easily change?

Can’t say I didn’t see this coming 🤦‍♂️

02.03.2020 15:40
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Fully downvoted!

For the last four years, I am a part of this community and this community doesn't agree with you.

This move is an orchestrated hostile takeover.

Getting exchanges to steal Steem from their customers,
putting on fake witness nodes,
voting for these fake witnesses with stolen funds,
creating hard fork with the approval of these fake witnesses.

Congratulations!

Your move will go into the blockchain history books as the first documented successful gaming of the DPoS platform.

What you did today has no precedence. You don't even begin to realize how wrong you are.

Which, sadly, doesn't surprise me.

What I, sort of, wonder is, how does @dantheman feel about it? Is he just a bit sad?


Now, to more pressing business? Community hard fork?

02.03.2020 18:46
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Yeah. Fuck you guys.

02.03.2020 18:50
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In about a month, Justin has almost killed what he has purchased. I think he has been successful at what he set out to do.

02.03.2020 18:50
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well.. thats it. im done with steem.

Thank you @justinsunsteem and tron

well done

02.03.2020 18:52
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Steemit is dead. Long live (currently un-named fork)!

04.03.2020 01:09
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Good Town Hall Happening Right Now

https://mspwaves.com/watch

Discord: https://discord.gg/WehQ9g

02.03.2020 18:55
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The Steem blockchain will not be abandoned or merged to TRON unless the community decides so.

It will be decided the same way as you put sock-puppets at the top today.

02.03.2020 19:01
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Ok .. but I don't understand why steemfollower has closed. if the agreement with Tron was successful.

02.03.2020 19:03
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Tron is attempting to hostile take-over the network, that's what this announcement is actually say, in weird political lies. Most of the dApps shut down as a protest, their way of saying "No, we will not be taken over."

04.03.2020 01:08
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I understand!! even if Tron wouldn't be a bad partner !! history teaches that it is better to ally between us and not make war, especially in this world. Always being fair to others.

04.03.2020 23:53
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That was a really sneaky move and i am hoping you restore community voted witnesses not com voted witnesses.

I would love to see these changes to be made for voting for witnesses:
● Reduce voting to max of 5 witnesses
● Voting stake for witnesses only active after 1 month
● No using peoples steem from exchanges for voting

02.03.2020 19:03
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Was this written by the CCP?

Immediately threatening the top witnesses, whose responsibility is the integrity of the blockchain and community, with legal ramifications while using OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY WITHOUT PERMISSION to gain voting power to undermine those witnesses by using funds on exchanges is as authoritarian and fraudulent as it gets. I can't believe how long we've been contributing and advocating for Steem as a decentralized, censorship resistant chain. I'm very disappointed. A little embarrassed actually.

Soft Fork 22.2 was maliciously structured...

HOW IS THIS ACTION NOT MALICIOUS!??! It was done to prevent this exact action by Sun which by its very nature betrays and corrupts the system by centralizing it. This is actually causing harm to everyone on the chain. This is the actual, malicious act.

intending to freeze a handful of very targeted accounts and taking away their rights and possession to their owned asset, and may be deemed illegal and criminal.

No rights were diminished and no property was taken away. What a bunch of emotional pandering.

QuoteThey even threatened to hard fork, and nullify all existing STEEM token, putting every good STEEM holder, developer and community interest at danger. This is very much against every aspect of the original purpose of decentralization and the core value of the Steem blockchain and community. We can’t let it happen.

Again, was this written by the CCP? The gall! To claim that centralizing a chain to save it from centralization is just about as close to double speak as you can get. By betraying the mission and nature of the chain YOU have put every Steem holder, developer and community interest at danger.

I guess I'll just have to wait until the discussion on March 6th, but I can't continue to promote Steem while this Civil War takes place.

For what it's worth, I'm for a hardfork to a new Steem chain. Maybe Steem Classic isn't the right name for it, because it'll be too closely

02.03.2020 19:34
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we could call it "not-steemy"

03.03.2020 06:47
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A day that will live in infamy. A small community stood against a tyrant. Few stood up to the collusion of centralized exchanges to try and overtake a chain.

STEEM is not the tech, STEEM is the community. I suggest you stop your attack, let the community vote in the witnesses, not centralized exchanges using MY and other Steemians funds to hurt their investment.

02.03.2020 19:36
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Whatever u signed up for this, stake is stake, this is the law if the land. If you don’t like it now, leave! U should have known what you have been investing in the whole time. Quit bitching and moaning and grow up! I’m a steemian too and i’m happy as pie to see this change. Speak for yourself, don’t let the door hit you in the but on the way out! cya! I’m staying now, like your post said weeding out the week! bye

02.03.2020 22:26
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For a guy with a little dick you sure have fucked everyone good.

02.03.2020 19:39
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Why didn't you make hf22-5 changes public on github?

I don't find any information right here:
https://github.com/steemit

Does this mean, I simply have to hope that Steemit.com didn't added any other malicious stuff to the code-base?

02.03.2020 19:50
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加fuckin油,老孙!也许现在我们可以在这里获得一些不是那么meta的内容

02.03.2020 19:58
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Please roll this back sir

02.03.2020 20:23
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The actions of witnesses running 22.2 were wrong and compromised the integrity of the chain, and while I understand need to secure the platform and reclaim stake, I think witnesses who are longstanding community members and publicly opposed 22.2, who were actively running 22.1, warrant consideration for witness support from all parties, some examples being quochuy and blockbrothers. Commitments to the community have been clearly communicated by Steemit Inc. and we should reflect on what we want future to look like instead of focusing on past grievances.

02.03.2020 20:25
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To The Steemit Team @steemitblog,

The Promise

There is supposed to be good faith listening and communication between the witnesses we voted for and The Steemit Team. That is what The Steemit Team promised us. This is what the witnesses wanted.

Users wanted to know about the things stated in today's open letter weeks ago. Some answers were not forthcoming. Questions were being awkwardly ignored. The Steemit Team was not voicing answers to questions, so their voice was provoked by taking away their staked power, in a soft fork. And it worked! Now we have more answers. Although we paid for it by having our own voices partly silenced. Our witnesses are gone. Our dapps have gone dark.

Now how about that March 6th meeting?

Will our questions and concerns be heard? We have been eagerly interested in hearing what The Steemit Team has to say.

Both sides behaved badly against the other. Obviously there was no other option for either side. Either grab their current power levels and free governance by the horns, or wait for it to be controlled by their opponents.

To rebuild the peace, both sides will have to offer trust anew. This will be challenging because that trust was abused from both sides, but it must be done. Levels of decency and respect need to be maintained for people to cooperate. People do not follow rules as eagerly as computers follow code.

We understand why The Steemit Team under Justin Sun would rather make only positive statements to boost the popularity and morale of using Steem and Tron in partnership. This is an admirable goal. Why not use this strategy to help restore trust by offering some trust back to some of our witnesses? I think that would be the best starting point to extend the olive branch.

Question

What does this statement mean to the average person here?

For the next 4-6 weeks, the Steemit team will be using the voting rights to resume the order of the community while having an open channel for meeting community members and Witnesses.

Are you planning to use voting rights for things beyond voting in your own witnesses? Such as curating and downvoting? Can you elaborate, if so? As unoffcial as it is, we have always had freedom to communicate our individual comments and questions here on the blockchain. What sort of open channel are you now describing? A few mediated meetings from time to time would be great.

To what extent will The Steemit Team be willing to serve the actual most-wanted requests of its users? Last time in your open letter, you stated that you wanted to listen to what we had to say. So far, The Steemit Team has always chosen their own roadmap and goals. Feedback has influenced their decisions, but ultimatesly The Steemit Team has always acted of their own will. Should we expect this to be the continuing trend?

Conclusion

Thank you for hearing my words. I have invested too much of my time and worth into Steem to sit quietly and watch people behaving badly go and destroy everyone's hard work and dreams. We have the best developers in the world working on both sides of the aisle. The only thing stopping us from creating the best blockchain in the world is our own egos. Let's set that aside and build a true round table for everyone to be treated as equals. Decentralization is the dream. Can you make it a reality?

@creativetruth

02.03.2020 20:39
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They won't read this.

03.03.2020 01:35
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Seven of our witnesses are back.

05.03.2020 12:18
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What did the witnesses expect was going to happen after the soft fork?? Soft fork an account of a billionaire that just purchased some assets. Brains to burn these guys. You could see this coming all day long.

02.03.2020 21:11
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Go fuck yourselves

02.03.2020 21:14
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I Agree!

03.03.2020 10:00
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Bitcoin and Ethereum communities tell everyone over and over that on-chain governance does not work...

How many blockchains need to be dominated by a small party for you all to get it. On-chain governance always leads to corruption. It did with EOS and TRON and now Steem. This is the result of on-chain governance. Its faux "decentralization" and the little people always get fucked.

02.03.2020 22:44
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Judging by the payout on this post, it appears the community has spoken. You know what the intent of the soft fork was, as it was clearly stated. You just seek to unilaterally bully yourself into a better position.

Side one: Several appointed community members fork to 'force a conversation'

Side two: Single stakeholder unilaterally forks to 'force a conversation' while asserting they are protecting decentralization

Can't make this shit up!

02.03.2020 23:03
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"For the next 4-6 weeks, the Steemit team will be using the voting rights to resume the order of the community while having an open channel for meeting community members and Witnesses. The goal is to protect the Steem blockchain from bad actors, add transparency, and receive community suggestions and advice."

This very much sounds like CCP talk, which would then translate to:
'We are the dictators now. All we do is in the interest of the people. We decide what is in the interest of the people. Everyone who opposes us is a bad actor. Transparency is what we decide to reveal. You are free to have an opinion, which we are free to ignore. If we don't like your opinion, you will be punished.'

"We’ll be learning a lot from TRON’s team on how to build a healthy exchange relationship"
From what I have seen, that healthy relationship looks like forming a cartel to enforce your will at all cost.
The way you act, you are only losing any trust or goodwill people might have had.

02.03.2020 23:34
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Your stake in Steem on centralized exchanges was just used to take over the Steem Blockchain

https://twitter.com/linuxmanuals/status/1234555777437683712?s=20 #steem #steemfraud #news

03.03.2020 00:31
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Those whales in Etrhereum and EOS should come here and play the same game with TRON then STEEM will be great again.

03.03.2020 00:54
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The group behind this could essentially do this kind of attack to any Steem community member, on any terms they want.

Binance and Poloniex can do what they did to steem to any other coin on terms that they want, so people that have coins there, maybe you should be careful. If they did it to steem they will probably do it to other coins too.

03.03.2020 01:29
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TRON is known for its thriving ecosystem

TRON is known for its shady snake oil marketing, ridiculously blown up numbers, and straight lies into users faces. Or do I live in a paralell universe?

03.03.2020 01:46
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Generally I don't comment on the articles I read, I haven't participated in the platform for a long time but I always try to be aware of what's going on. Today I find that the mood here is very agitated and I want to allow myself to give my opinion if anyone is interested. I speak on behalf of the community I did not know about steem, of those more than 5000 users who follow my account of which perhaps many are inactive by not finding what they expected or seeing too hard a way. I want to summarize what I have found and please correct the areas where I am wrong. We have always been crying out for investors to be able to keep breathing, then one appears @justinsunsteemit who invests so much money that they buy about 20% of the shares. But since that is a lot of influence, we are afraid of not knowing or suspecting what he might do with that power and we try to block him. The user moves his influence in some exchange houses to defend himself from that attack and at the same time he counteracts taking control of everything, then he appears here trying to convince us that it is something temporary and of his intentions by means of A Roadmap but the indignation that those who lost the power feel leads them to attack him by means of comments and protest actions.

This is my point of view on:

The purchase of steemit inc. is something you'll notice is a good thing because a major investor has set his sights on our platform.

Fear of abuse of power

As far as the rules are the same for all users where SPs represent the influence a user has or can have on the platform, a user who invests a lot is entitled to that Influence he has bought (it is his investment). SF should not have been applied just to affect this user, since it is not a decentralized act. I agree that we should protect ourselves from one person deciding for millions, but why wasn't it applied globally so that no one with more than 300K SP could vote? Maybe that affected the interests of many who are offended today?

If we really want decentralization something like this should have been done to choose our witnesses: votes under 500 SP add up to one when collectively they reach 500 SP, above that every vote is worth 1, the delegations do not count. We will have witnesses really elected by the community and not by whales as it is now or was before. Because what the new investor has done now will happen before without anyone being bothered, for example a user with 2 votes from 500K SP users had more right to be a witness than a user with 500 votes from users with 100SP, is that a fair election? Well, they wanted to prevent someone else from doing what many were already doing.

I think that the solution to the conflict is to implement a vote like the one I have described so that the community really chooses its Witnesses and does not continue to attack someone who not only put faith in our platform but who is still open to dialogue.

By the way, if he has influence in the exchange houses he is in my opinion an excellent ally.

03.03.2020 02:03
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I downvoted you because of your...

LOUD formatting.

You shouldn't bold your way into getting noticed. Thanks for your thoughts.

03.03.2020 02:41
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I didn't know it was forbidden, it was enough to let me know to correct it but you first used your punishment vote. That's the problem that has kept steem from growing, you think punishment is the way because you have the power to punish, but then you complain when someone else with more power than you uses it against you. It's a vicious circle that doesn't solve anything. The first correction should be the advice, and the punishment ultimately when the advice is not followed. See how you've been a part of the current state of steem? I've already corrected, I hope you can remove your unnecessary flag.

03.03.2020 11:37
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Done! Upvoted instead.

03.03.2020 16:29
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Tron is a shit coin and so does with steem coin also.. Steem is a shit coin now.. Im still stuck in here for 13 weeks.. I need to go out from here before to late.. Panic Time!!!!

03.03.2020 02:08
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@ben (Justin Sun) flagging constructive comments is a new low.

03.03.2020 02:10
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Stinc is now officially stunc.

New boss, same as the old boss.

And you had to steal stake not your's to do it.
Do you see the irony?

The die is cast now, let's hope it ain't craps.
(Thanks alot, rich assholes!)

03.03.2020 02:21
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You are dealing with more than a business here – you are dealing with a community. A community that has been here longer than you have. Steem & Steemit “Elders” have poured their passion into the site & currency over the years, and with that invested time & passion, they deserve some respect. You bought the company – not the people. Money can buy a lot of things – trust isn’t one of them.

Since the moment you took hold of Steemit (through an unannounced sudden back-alley deal), you have done very little to address the communities concerns or answer their questions. You are the new kid. You can’t come into this and expect to be accepted and earn trust by keeping everyone in the dark. The balloon drop with confetti cannons while changing every topic to “TRON” isn’t selling it. We are not the TRON community – we are the Steem community. The fireworks that light up your sky when you talk about TRON are just for you.

You have done nothing to understand and empathize with the Steem community & witnesses. You can try twisting what the witnesses did (freezing the Steem accounts you own) as much as you want, but the move the witnesses made was with a passion for protecting Steem – an act out of precaution for what they love caused by your silence on your intentions & way of shrugging off community questions. Your actions today were done selfishly, recklessly, & shows your lack of empathy and understanding. You have effectively lost any chance at trust from some of the most passionate Steem users & witnesses. You did not do your part when you entered this community to introduce yourself correctly and clearly state your intentions. You came in as a TRON salesman, and sorry, none of us were buying – we already had Steem.

I think more than your move today, the most unfortunate thing we learn from this, is the fact that you didn’t hear the community. We were talking. We had questions and concerns. You just didn’t care enough to listen. You did whatever it took to get your Steem back. Pretending you did it to gain back control of the community is “transparent” and we are seeing right through it. You have proven that you care more about the money than you do the community. You are the bad actor.

03.03.2020 02:33
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Whoever wrote this post (waaay up above my comment) is a douchenozzle. Sometimes name-calling is called for, and this is one of those times.

03.03.2020 03:26
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This is so fucked. Thanks to Justin for ruining this community and totally losing the trust & interest of the users that have been here since the beginning.

03.03.2020 03:28
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NO. We are NOT interested in this "exciting" future you speak of @steemitblog. Based on how you have strong armed the community it is clear to me and the rest of the REAL Steem Community what this would look like. Bleak to say it mildly.

People who are interested in freedom above all else simply do not conduct themselves in this manner. So I say, "HECK NO!" to anything and everything you and your people have to say about the future of where you think the Steem Blockchain is headed.

Wave all the dollar bills you want in our faces... That's not the reason we are here. We are here for far more than financial gain. The disrespect you have shown the Steem Community in hijacking the voted witness's (Voted for by US the USERS) is despicable and UNACCEPTABLE!

As long as I am on this Blockchain I will resist any and all action you and your people take... And here's the thing to remember @justinsunsteemit... I am not alone in this opinion.

You are the new guy and this is an infrastructure based on influence and reputation. In a sanctuary of freedom you can not possibly think that you can come bumbling and crashing in here dictating your will upon the entire Steem Community like an entitled hooligan.

This is a community of people of smart and capable people who actually care about each others well-being... And from what I can see these are clearly things that you have a lot to learn about unfortunately.

I have said my mind... Now I am going to vote with all my Steem Accounts towards a brighter and better future for this Blockchain.


I suggest everyone reading these words do the same. Check the Witness Voting page and look to see who among the witness's have written something constructive about this sham. AND GIVE THEM YOUR VOTES.

https://steemitwallet.com/~witnesses
03.03.2020 06:00
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I don't understand why you have done this to us. Why would you make such a hostile move against the Steem community and decentralization? No one will ever trust Steemit again after this. The best thing you can do is to reverse this insane action and give control of the Witnesses back to the community.

Steemit, you have cut off your nose to spite your face.

03.03.2020 06:37
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He can't reverse it completely. The sock puppet accounts are powered up and 7 witness places have been regained. That means the planned 3 day power down won't happen. Millions of STEEM from the exchanges locked in VEST.

05.03.2020 11:51
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"..nullify all existing STEEM token.."

That's all I need to hear. I already lost LITERALLY 99% of my investment here over the past 2.5 years, and now the new management is talking about the possibility of going to zero?

I'm done.

Taking my tiny stack of 8k or so and finding a ship that isn't torpedoing itself.

03.03.2020 07:19
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05.03.2020 11:48
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Fuck you and everything you are.

03.03.2020 09:12
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The community has called you out on your lies and heavy-handed tactics.

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03.03.2020 09:44
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I think community answered you.

03.03.2020 11:59
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You never understood what it was you actually bought, Justin, just like you don't seem to understand that the power of Steem is the community behind the platform. Good luck saving your reputation in the global crypto community.

03.03.2020 13:43
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What you did just goes to show that the original witnesses were right about you...

03.03.2020 13:45
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I was just about to post the same.

05.03.2020 11:46
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Is time to grow in other decentralized social networks such as creary.net. Witnesses! Here is a tutorial to create a node in this community. The consensus it is 25 witness nodes. See you there tutorial >>> https://creaproject.io/set-crea-witness-node/

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Or perhaps hard fork the chain into two separate chains. One with just Justin's 20 witnesses and one chain with everybody else.

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The "Product Roadmap" described in this post gives me hope

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