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This is great! Thanks!

One question - how will we move to Hive? Is there anything I ought to consider doing now? I know people are pulling delegations and powering down. Many have stopped posting already. It feels a lot like the Y2K buzz.

I'm carrying on as before for now, because I have no idea what else to do.

18.03.2020 17:45
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Hey @owasco! Thanks for checking it out and glad you found it helpful!

Firstly, the move to Hive is all automatic, you don't need to do anything, it's basically going to start off as a copy paste job with the Hive logo attached to it.

All pending payouts, delegations, balances (that includes in your 3 day savings), EVERYTHING, will move over.

I'm not sure why folks would be pulling delegations other than to powerdown more steem and sell it on the market when it's fully liquid. My guess is those folks will want to get some cash for their steem before everyone else dumps their steem and drives the price down I.e. The ones who definitely don't want to stay on the Steem chain but want to go fully to Hive chain.

Hope that made sense!

My advice, carry on doing what you're doing, there will be a transition period for those of us who are still trying to figure out what happened this last month but I hope this post clears the air a bit and whatever people decide, it's done with respect (that could be wishful thinking)!

About your question, my advice is to keep on

18.03.2020 18:26
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Freaking out seems to be in style worldwide. I don't have enough value here to care about the money I might lose, and pulling delegations seems a lot like closing restaurants to protect ourselves from the common cold. I'll just carry on and not worry about, in part thanks to this post of yours. Thanks again for putting it together.

18.03.2020 18:36
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Haha well, I declare my blog a drama free zone 😁 I prefer finding things out, observing the views and actions from the different sides and then share the knowledge.

I have bought up about 24k steem with my own money so I don't want to wave goodbye to that just yet but I have also only bought what I could afford so also not too bothered if it goes to 0. I've spent more on other various liabilities (cars etc haha).

Keep on carrying on my friend, it will all work out in the end, I'm sure πŸ˜€

18.03.2020 19:02
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Thanks a lot for this great article. It was quite hard to understand for me all that happened as I am only here since a little less than a year.

I have a question you may be able to answer : what will happen to communities ? I work a lot and use the steemleo community to share my blog/market analysis. And it is a very powerful tool for me. But will the steemleo community be driven into the hive ?

18.03.2020 19:29
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Thanks a lot @blesspatrick - I know how you feel. I've been here about 2 years now and there is a steep learning curve, I'm still learning now but hope to share what I know to make it a little easier!

Communities as in the hive communities? I believe they will all be on BOTH Steem and Hive chains but I can't speak for individual communities. I'll tag @steem.leo in here so that they might be able to answer - I also found a link to their Discord server that I had on a previous guide which you can join and ask them directly there.

18.03.2020 20:02
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I contacted them directly into the discord and received an answer. I post it here for all having the same questions :

β€œIn the beginning days of the fork, you'll be able to interact with the same SteemLeo community on the Hive blockchain (using Hive.blog) or Steempeak Communities (when they're ready).

The Steemleo interface and LEO token won't be ready to move to Hive right when the hard fork happens.

A full post explaining what SteemLeo will be like post hard-fork will be released tomorrow.”

18.03.2020 20:49
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Fantastic! Thanks for relaying the response! I thought this might be the case but always better to ask directly!

Keep your eyes on that post from SteemLeo by the sounds of it then πŸ˜ƒ

18.03.2020 21:05
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Thank-you for putting together this information ! It helps clear up some confusion as we wait for the launch of the new blockchain HIVE!

18.03.2020 19:46
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You're most welcome @porters and thanks for stopping by! Glad it has helped clear the air a little bit as there's been a lot of noise but we wait with anticipation for Hive!

18.03.2020 20:04
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Hello Friend.

I don't want to be arrogant (I never have been) but with your nice explanations I could see that I was already in control of everything that was happening with steem - hive.

You know what? I am going to do the resteem (or "rehive"?) so that all my colleagues can read this clarifying post.

Good one, buddy! Thank you.

18.03.2020 22:41
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Hey Juan, glad you're already in control your end! That's what these guides are about as well, helping more experienced users reaffirm what they already know!

Thanks for stopping by and checking it!

Who knows where we'll be in the next month hey?

18.03.2020 23:44
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Who knows where we'll be in the next month hey?

I am totally convinced that we will be in the best place in the world!

19.03.2020 01:19
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Thanks a ton for the layman's terms of everything Steem/Hive. I've been here on and off the past 3 yrs and found it a steep learning curve. However now you have explained things quite clear and concise.

19.03.2020 03:53
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Hey @duanesworld, thanks for stopping by and checking out the post - glad you found it useful!

Yea very steep learning curve but for casual users like us, we probably just need to be aware of our options rather than get bogged down in all the technical details. It's only if you're a developer or want to be a witness then you probably need to have more technical knowledge.

What are your plans with Steem/Hive?

19.03.2020 08:17
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Great content, @nickyhavey!

Let's hope for the best!

19.03.2020 04:16
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That's it man! Always hope for the best and be open to change, let's see where we are in a month's time πŸ˜€

19.03.2020 08:18
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Thanks for this writeup @nickyhavey. You made me understand things I was worried about. :)

19.03.2020 05:11
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Hey hey @rem-steem, you're welcome and thanks for stopping by - glad it helped clarify a few things!

No need to be worried, just go with the flow and it will all work out fine πŸ˜€

19.03.2020 08:20
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I hope so.
Just another query, if you have any idea. I'm feeling really awkward right now with my user name. There are many steem based dapps like esteem also feeling the same, I guess. But I didn't see enough info if it's possible to migrate our account, like with a new user name. Any idea?

19.03.2020 12:54
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Hmm, good question.

As far as I know, everything will just be copied over as it is now so you will have the same username over on Hive.

The PAL Discord server has a load of knowledgeable people and the developers of the platform if you wanted to ask in there - here's a link to the Discord

I have a feeling you may have to start a new account with a different username if you wanted to lose the "steem" part of it but as it is a new platform, I'd like to think they can be flexible in the transition... I'll keep my fingers crossed you get the right answer 🀞

19.03.2020 13:04
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yeah, the username is unchangeable. Got the answer from Good-karma. And he's suggesting to make a new account and gradually transfer my fund there. Maybe have to do that. But I'm worried to build this same reputation over again.
Let's see what fits best.

19.03.2020 13:21
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Yea I thought that might be the case unfortunately πŸ™

It's a good chance to rebrand yourself though and think of an "evergreen" username, rather than a platform specific one. As we have all learned, one platform isn't guaranteed to stay up and running in this space...

19.03.2020 14:11
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My views well captured here.

In other words, vote the witnesses that best resemble your views and interests for the improvement and development of the chain.

It's what you want to see acted upon hence giving your rights to that person who you truly believes will act on your best faith.

19.03.2020 05:16
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Definitely and if you don't like the actions then you can easily unvote a witness and replace your vote with a new one that you trust.

Also good practice to review your witness votes regularly to make sure they are still active - some have been known to ghost without warning.

Thanks for stopping by and commenting πŸ˜€

19.03.2020 08:23
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Drum & Bass eh?.

Followed :)

19.03.2020 09:45
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Haha! Probably the most important bit of the whole blog right there πŸ˜ƒ

Nice one @greencross, good to meet a fellow dnb head! More of a liquid lover myself, how about you?

19.03.2020 09:56
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What a huge Post, your insane! Cya on the other side.

19.03.2020 11:31
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Insane? I'll take that! Haha thank you and see you around πŸ˜ƒ

19.03.2020 12:55
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Exciting times! We're creating history as we speak! The future of decentralization is bright with Hive!

19.03.2020 13:28
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Haha there's never a dull moment around here is there! Exciting time to be around with all these changes! No doubt a gradual transition period as people get to grips with what's going on but let's hope the lessons learned from the past will be rectified with Hive πŸ˜ƒ

19.03.2020 14:17
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I hope so too! Together we have the ability to make something unique, something nobody has seen before!

19.03.2020 14:33
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Thanks a lot for this great article. It was quite hard to understand for me all that happened as I am only here since a little less than a year.

19.03.2020 14:14
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You're most welcome @technical01! Well, a lot has happened, even for the more experienced users, to get our heads around! I've been here 2 years and keeping your finger on the pulse isn't always easy but glad to be able to help out with these guides!

19.03.2020 14:28
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19.03.2020 15:46
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Well that's pretty badass! Wasn't expecting that, thanks @arcange! Just trying to shed some light on what's been going on here 😊

19.03.2020 16:05
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Very well explained. Do you know if they are decreasing the number of votes each account gets for witnesses on HIVE?

19.03.2020 16:47
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Firstly, thanks for checking it out and leaving a comment, glad you found it useful.

As far as I know, I don't think HIVE is planning on doing that in the first instance - they are just going to be preventing new accounts voting on witnesses for the first 30 days. But I believe they will be having further discussions among the lead developers, witnesses and the community about how to tweak witness voting as time goes on.

The PAL Discord server is where a lot of the witnesses and developers are so you might be able to get an answer here is a link to that one. There is also a Hive Discord but I don't have a link for that one, sorry! Try PAL first - let me know if you get an answer πŸ˜ƒ

19.03.2020 17:37
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19.03.2020 22:38
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I'm still getting a handle on using Steem. If I have all of my Steem locked up as SP do I have to wait two years to unlock it and move over to Hive or what?

19.03.2020 22:41
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It's a never ending learning experience hey!

It takes 13 weeks (at time of writing) to fully power down all your SP into liquid STEEM - so you'll get 13 equal amounts each week converted from SP to STEEM.

As for getting Hive tokens, there will be a "snapshot" in the next day or two of your current STEEM holdings and you will get the equivalent amount of Hive tokens on Hive when it launches at the weekend.

If you want to move the STEEM tokens over to Hive then you'll need to exchange them - @blocktrades just made a post saying they will create a STEEM/HIVE instant exchange if you have liquid STEEM you want to convert.

Hope that helps πŸ˜€

19.03.2020 23:05
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Ok cool, that helps a lot. The snapshot includes Steem powered up as SP then? (Ie. I don't have to start a powerdown before the "snapshot" in order to migrate to be airdropped Hive tokens?)

19.03.2020 23:21
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That's it, it includes it all, even pending post payouts, anything in savings and any conversions you have going on from SBD etc. The lot (that's what I've been lead to believe from when I asked in the Hive Discord a day or two ago). So you don't need to powerdown for the snapshot.

However, I think a lot will be powering down after the snapshot and then using their steem to buy Hive to get a stronger position over there...

19.03.2020 23:30
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Yeah that makes sense. Ok I think I've got it now. Thank you @nickyhavey!

19.03.2020 23:36
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No worries @mark.ember! Happy to have helped 😁

19.03.2020 23:41
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@nickyhavey,

Nice job mate. As I will undoubtedly screw up something technical regarding HIVE, I will be sure to solicit your insights ... SOON.

Quill

20.03.2020 00:20
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Thanks @quillfire! There's been a lot of noise to try and filter out and shorten the story for the casual users who probably aren't as into the whole governance side of things.

There really is no change to the way things will initially start on Hive other than new accounts can't vote witnesses in their first 30 days.

Also, it looks like 300+ accounts will have their airdrop put into the DAO if they voted 2 or more of Tron's witnesses...

20.03.2020 08:33
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20.03.2020 10:51
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Thanks a lot @project.hope! Think we need a lot of that "h" word at the moment haha!

20.03.2020 11:10
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Dear @nickyhavey

Such a great and valuable publication. Thanks for sharing this "comprehensive" and long guide it with me :)

I shared it with few guys from project.hope. I think they may benefit from reading your article.

What this means for existing users of Steem is that everything will work exactly the same on Hive.

Kind of. Will we have steemd.com to check our voting power? Will we have steemauto and steemworld? What about steemconnect and steem keychain? Not many things will work exacly the same way on hive.

After recent events, putting together this latest Bluffer's Guide was a no-brainer given that the topic of decentralised governance

Hive will show if decentralized governance can work out. Right now HIVE will be fully centralized. More than steemit ever was. And no storytelling will change it. Hive will be absolutely dominated by group of few closely realted users/businesses and I can forsee that anyone having different view on their actions will be quickly silenced.

Yours, Piotr

20.03.2020 11:40
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Hey @crypto.piotr, thanks for sharing to the Project Hope community, hope they find it comprehensively useful! πŸ˜ƒ

Will we have steemd.com to check our voting power? Will we have steemauto and steemworld? What about steemconnect and steem keychain? Not many things will work exacly the same way on hive.

I was coming at it from a pure usability point of view in terms of writing posts and commenting, still having your content etc... that much will stay the same as most average users probably want some familiarity with their blog first and foremost I'd imagine.

As for steemd.com, it was created by former Steemit employee @roadscape so my guess is (and it is just a guess) that it will still be run by Steemit as it might be considered as "property of Steemit Inc" and may not be operational on Hive - I don't know about that.

Steemauto have announced in this post that they will continue running for a short while on Steem's blockchain but will be moving fully over to Hive if there's no support on Steem.

Steem Connect & Keychain will be functional to log in to Hive from what I gather in the initial post and conversations I've seen in the PAL Discord.

From what it looks like, the developers of these apps will make the move to Hive and will take their projects with them but I can't speak for them individually as I'm just trying to report what I understand from what I've read.

Hive will show if decentralized governance can work out. Right now HIVE will be fully centralized. More than steemit ever was. And no storytelling will change it.

Yes, my final sentence before the cat picture was "...time will tell" so for those of us who were neutral and watching it all unfold trying to see through the fog, our stance should still be that - see what happens.

Hive will be absolutely dominated by group of few closely realted users/businesses and I can forsee that anyone having different view on their actions will be quickly silenced.

You could argue that that was the case already with Steem anyway and I would find it difficult to disagree seeing as the bid bot economy turned witnesses in to whales and a closed group at the top, in addition to other accounts that had ninja-mined stake keeping them there with their own witness votes... is this just a case of "we weren't the ones calling the shots after Justin Sun arrived so we're going to make a chain where we can call the shots"...?

Again, time will tell...

Thanks for the questions and talking points, I'd like to hear from more users about this so will bump up your comment to the top

πŸ™‚

20.03.2020 12:00
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This situation with Justin was like a sudden slap!
We were sleeping and a bucket of cold water was thrown at us.

But these are good things, this is a new awakening.
A dawn full of light!

Steemit vices must be removed. Once weaknesses are discovered, we must become stronger.

20.03.2020 14:42
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I like that analogy - bucket of ice cold water certainly caused a rude awakening and seemed to galvanise the community, my Twitter feed was dominated by Steem news...

I admire your enthusiasm, don't lose it πŸ˜ƒ

20.03.2020 15:52
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And I admire all your work, especially your music, brother. Thank you for supporting Project Hope.

20.03.2020 17:22
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HIVE will be fully centralized

Not quite. Any account can choose which witnesses they want to vote for. On Hive, the distribution is a bit more balanced now that the massive 75-million SteemIt Inc. stake is gone.

This means: Hive is already more fair in terms of decentralization than Steem is currently.

Secondly, as for Hive "censoring" posts, I doubt that will happen. The group that started Hive did so specifically for decentralization. What you're claiming is an "if". Meanwhile, on Steem, posts are actively being censored. No "if", it's actually already happening where SteemIt Inc. has pushed changes to SteemIt.com that hide posts talking about Hive.

If you are worried about censorship, my move would be to go where things haven't been censored yet. Sure, it's early, it may happen in the future, but "may" is a whole lot better than "is".

21.03.2020 04:24
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Wow, this was a long but helpful read.
The guide important for newbies like me and i think i will have to bookmark this page on my browser, as this will make it easy for me to check back whenever i need a quick reminder.

20.03.2020 11:42
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Thanks a lot @papa-mensa, I'm glad you found it useful but I'm sure there will be more developments and things that need explaining as this space evolves!

20.03.2020 12:02
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A great publication, a great guide that summarizes everything in a simple way, thanks for sharing it, it is sure to be very useful.

20.03.2020 13:33
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Thanks a lot for checking it out and really pleased you found it helpful! With so much going on here, even the more experienced users need a bit of a refresh haha!

20.03.2020 15:54
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Hey! I use Windows 8! My pot is going great with that OS 😝

Anyway... Moving forward...

Ooooffff... That's a looong post! But I liked it :D

It's very complete and has cleared up many of my doubts

I want to know about the famous airdrop. It's real? Who's gonna get it and How?

But... Explain to me like I was a five-year-old kid, pleeeeeaaaase... :D

20.03.2020 14:37
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Hey! I use Windows 8! My pot is going great with that OS 😝

Hahaha!! Well, you keep going with it my friend πŸ˜‚

Ooooffff... That's a looong post! But I liked it :D
It's very complete and has cleared up many of my doubts

Epic! Thanks for sticking with it to the end! Believe me, this is the "short version" haha! I'm happy you found it useful though!

I want to know about the famous airdrop. It's real? Who's gonna get it and How?
But... Explain to me like I was a five-year-old kid, pleeeeeaaaase... :D

You got it - 5 year old explanation coming right up πŸ˜ƒ

Yes, the airdrop is real!

Everyone will receive an airdrop based on the amount of STEEM, SP and SBD in your steemwallet as long as you don't have a Steemit Inc related account or voted for 2 of the witnesses running v22.5 (Tron's witnesses) with an account that had more than 1,000SP.

Also, if you were vocal with your support for Justin Sun, you also won't get the airdrop.

This is all from their Press Release on Medium and explains all about the airdrop there too and what Hive is in greater detail.

It does explain it as though you are 7 years old though 😜

In short, you will now have HIVE, HIVE Power (HP) and Hive Backed Dollars (HBD), instead of STEEM, STEEM Power (SP) and STEEM Backed Dollars (SBD) when you log in to Hive.

20.03.2020 16:04
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But... but.. but...

I thought they gonna give us Hive tokens free

Don't they? O.o?

20.03.2020 17:47
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20.03.2020 20:09
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I meant like more free tokens 😁...

But, It's ok. That's awesome. It's like we never leave home but in another place... It feels weirdly comfortable ... :D

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21.03.2020 17:51
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21.03.2020 17:54
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As usual, clear and understandable. As you pointed out, I should have read it a while ago. Things are a little crazy.

Also, the comments and your responses are also useful.

I do hope that you continue with these guides. They're invaluable to those of us who just want to get on with the business of blogging!

25.03.2020 09:46
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Thanks Fiona, no worries and I know the situation is pretty dire for everyone so hope the full upvote here will help you out, it's not much, it's all I got left before my first powerdown pays out tomorrow πŸ˜ƒ

I'll still blog on both platforms I think. As a content creator, it seems mad to cut off one supply when now we can double our rewards, especially as our content is platform agnostic.

Keep on blogging I say!

26.03.2020 12:24
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