This is called the HIVE AirDrop Exclusion List. (HIVE 에어드랍 제외 대상 목록이라고 합니다.)



  • This is called the HIVE AirDrop Exclusion List.
  • Don't forget your steem is treated the same.

steemit accounts


"ben",
"bitdev100",
"geos",
"goku1",
"hkdev404",
"imadev",
"joe767676",
"misterdelegation",
"steem",
"steemit",
"steemit2",
"steemitadmin",
"timothy2020",
"steemitblog",

tron puppets


"goodguy24",
"aheadofslow",
"night11pm",
"hunger365",
"waitforyou1",
"cloudysun",
"jumphigh",
"coronashallgo",
"paintingclub",
"bostonawesome",
"toke2049",
"flyingfly1",
"agirl10000",
"eastooowest",
"car2001",
"nicetry001",
"high46",
"respect888",

Accounts excluded who voted a minimum of two sockpuppets or proxied someone who voted a minimum of two and who didn't unvote before the hive announcement with more than 1k sp


"poloniex",
"cjsdns",
"sigizzang",
"sct.wallet",
"virus707",
"pacemaker",
"sct.voter",
"sct.bank",
"goku1",
"joe767676",
"stablewon",
"imadev",
"stevoperon",
"friendlystranger",
"richwings",
"sj-jeong",
"jaydih",
"wisdomandjustice",
"omit",
"geos",
"we-together",
"photoholic",
"steemhunt",
"talkative-bk",
"rhodium",
"dobartim",
"razer7",
"dodoim",
"flysky",
"remain",
"coreabeforekorea",
"sct.krwp",
"goodnewworld",
"double-u",
"bukio",
"cyberrn",
"sonki999",
"spinbunny",
"steemex",
"francium",
"sjgod4018",
"lucky2015",
"jayplayco",
"fur2002ks",
"cancerdoctor",
"walktoheaven",
"coininstant",
"brent1042",
"bencana0523",
"smallpusher",
"glory7",
"ppomppu",
"vingroup",
"freegon",
"happybelly",
"stimp1024",
"truce",
"steemzzang",
"jsg",
"lichtblick",
"inchonbitcoin",
"ssc-token",
"cjh",
"veronicalee",
"uzgo",
"kibumh",
"btcmillennial",
"labradorpuppies",
"cnfund",
"floridasnail",
"rakkasan84",
"cool191",
"honusurf",
"ricky.gold",
"ilovemylife",
"loveecho",
"djusti",
"john371911",
"mehta",
"opixer",
"happyworkingmom",
"koyuh8",
"tradingideas",
"windowglass",
"ksc",
"ioioioioi",
"skuld2000",
"justyy",
"seo-boss",
"twinpapa",
"sandisk",
"kwonjs77",
"kimseun",
"happyberrysboy",
"cmp2020-pb",
"jewel-lover",
"donekim",
"greece-lover",
"sct",
"smy",
"gallop",
"sindong",
"thegreatgatsby",
"j-car",
"isaaclab",
"wonsama",
"naha",
"jjy",
"goodhello",
"trevonjb",
"lhy",
"zzings",
"remlaps1",
"aidasfg7",
"ediya",
"kanadaramagi123",
"nexgen",
"tabris",
"sindoja",
"spoke",
"project7",
"kopasi.sct",
"ayogom",
"wondumyungga",
"dongsuh",
"machellin",
"sun510",
"corn113",
"newiz",
"holic7",
"parisfoodhunter",
"realmankwon",
"menerva",
"hodolbak",
"electrodo",
"ys1302",
"buk-translate",
"bongje",
"rynow",
"solnamu",
"fenrir78",
"ringit",
"lighthil",
"seraphim502",
"mooninwater",
"kgbinternational",
"gustavomonraz",
"shenchensucc",
"yoon",
"jacobyu",
"jademont",
"ultranew",
"bigwave",
"soosoo",
"docker",
"sct.curator",
"tworld",
"devsup",
"edgarare1",
"jaykayw",
"hyokhyok",
"freedompoint",
"banguri",
"juancar347",
"kcc",
"triplea.bot",
"tailcock",
"jungjunghoon",
"infidel1258",
"maiyude",
"honeybeerbear",
"kingbit",
"jungch98",
"deer3",
"atomy1",
"epitt925",
"relaxkim",
"venti",
"funtraveller",
"skymin",
"dmsqlc0303",
"softmetal",
"dorian-lee",
"cmp2020",
"angelslake",
"alexaventuria",
"wordit",
"gmarket",
"jack8831",
"mrspointm",
"feelsogood",
"foreveraverage",
"kibaek",
"totopapa",
"isi3",
"kstop1",
"vip",
"storysharing",
"hhusaini",
"sklara",
"balticbadger",
"tshering-tamang",
"mrpointp",
"sasaadrian",
"kbaek81",
"angelina6688",
"abdullar",
"yinyangboobookat",
"maikuraki",
"jianan",
"aellly",
"proxy.token",
"steemflower",
"jjm13",
"levycore",
"firealiean",
"peterpa",
"lucky2",
"travelwithus",
"cub1",
"yellowbird",
"ravenkim",
"sunny1124",
"dr-frankenstein",
"soufiani",
"autorent",
"xiaoshancun",
"cheva",
"yann03",
"sweetpapa",
"goplayer",
"gfriend96",
"wongshiying",
"thebigsweed",
"iieeiieeii",
"tkdgjs79",
"banjjakism",
"huangzuomin",
"farm-mom",
"akiroq",
"travelnepal",
"kdtkaren",
"kungdel",
"reportup",
"matildah",
"blacklux",
"dappinvestor",
"kopasi",
"anroja",
"sgbonus",
"lupafilotaxia",
"dakeshi",
"dftba",
"stepbie",
"mimistar",
"sleepcat",
"remlaps-lite",
"chapchop",
"ricko66",
"eps",
"scottcbusiness",
"lucky222",
"cn-malaysia",
"deusjudo",
"kakakk",
"abduhawab",
"dailystats",
"zzan.hmy",
"steemchiller",
"ryanhkr",
"remlaps",
"lotusfleur",
"backdm",
"devyleona",
"daydayup",
"bulsik",
"tuckerjtruman",
"lifeskills-tv",
"norwegiansteem",
"yanirauseche",
"newbijohn",
"trueimagine",
"zzan.witnesses",
"brewcitygardener",
"wira8788",
"dailyke20",
"tinker-bell",
"pizzafamily",
"don-thomas",
"knight4sky",
"rainingfall",
"dailychina",
"chetanpadliya",
"akinome",
"lovelyyeon",
"zzan.atomy",
"palja",
"ksheva1",
"fadetoblack",
"autoway"


  • 너희들 스팀도 동일하게 대우된다는 것을 잊지 말거라.

  • Don't forget your steem is treated the same.


  • 그리고 아래 이미지는 프록시토큰의 증인보팅 내역 입니다.
  • And the image below shows the witness statement of @proxy.token


  • 너희들의 이런 결정이 중앙화이고, 검열인거야.(Your decision is centralization and censorsorship.)


Comments 275


저들에게 프록시토큰의 보팅은 유지되나요?

20.03.2020 03:33
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지금 철회 했습니다.

20.03.2020 04:00
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kr 많은 분들 제외군요!! 저도... 잘가라 하이브~

20.03.2020 03:37
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한국 유저들은 거의다 뺀다고 보면 되겠네요

20.03.2020 04:10
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그런거 같습니다. 재미진 친구들이예요.

20.03.2020 04:20
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Ethnic Cleansing? That's a little harsh, maybe hostile to counterview is warranted.

20.03.2020 04:21
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The ethnic group of people who vote for fake witnesses to subvert community consensus.

20.03.2020 04:26
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Well, they did happen to share an ethnicity, but plenty from other ethnicities are also excluded from the airdrop due to their choice to support a centralized hostile takeover.

21.03.2020 13:12
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I don't believe Hive plans to censor opposing views like Sun has

20.03.2020 04:28
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But Hive block the air drop of the opposite thinker.

20.03.2020 04:37
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Hive decided not to gift funds to those who are hostile to it, Steemit on the other hand hid all posts that it disagreed with. If Sun achieves full centralization like he intends, then he could edit the blockchain itself and remove posts.

20.03.2020 04:42
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What I'm talking about right now is not JS's steemit. Hive, who opposes centralization, is blocking airdrops to opposing thinkers.

20.03.2020 04:53
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Yes, Hive is built around decentralization, like Steem used to be. That's the reason why Hive was created, because Steem had become centralized. The people who are blocked from receiving the airdrops are the people who oppose the foundation of what Hive is built on.

20.03.2020 04:57
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Who decided the air drop block? Few witnesses? That is centralization.

20.03.2020 05:04
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Yes, I guess you could say all creations begin centralized by their creators. I would say though that the witnesses were elected by the community on Steem, and after the airdrop is finished all changes to the blockchain will be made by community elected witnesses.

20.03.2020 05:09
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I am talking about the current transition. The Airdrop blocking code, which targets many people with different think, was created by a current witness who wants to move to Hive before an air drop.
It is correct to be elected and operated by vote.
However, it is problematic for future Hive Witnesses, before being elected, to decide the airdrop block now with personal thoughts.

20.03.2020 05:29
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Being that Hive is a fork of Steem, they are already elected witnesses (if you check the witnesses page rn you can see witnesses supporting Hive by running version 23)

The only qualification for blocking people with "different think" was if they "voted a minimum of two sockpuppets and didn't unvote before the hive announcement with more than 1k sp"

Also, you may not be aware, but excluded accounts would be able to get the airdrop if they submit a proposal on hive and the community agreed to give them to them.

20.03.2020 05:36
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Who made qualification? That is the problem.
And it wasn't what the entire elected Witnesses agreed to, but a few decided.

Let's stop the theoretical story.
Different people have different ideas depending on which of the causes, processes, or consequences you value.

20.03.2020 05:50
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Accounts mentioned above are based on those who voted for sock puppets and agree to the centralization of Steem in which doesn't sit well with what Hive aims to be. It's just right to exclude them from the airdrop. Besides, no one owes anyone with that airdrop. It could be very subjective as anyone wants it to be, but the criteria is very clear.

So, please stop the whining because it won't help anymore. Again, no one owes you if you're not included in the airdrop. The Koreans were warned before that what they're doing might backfire to them. They have chosen a side, Justin and centralization side, so just stick to the centralized side under the centralized rule of Justin Sun. Just be careful not to go against him because you will definitely get censored.

20.03.2020 06:09
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I value freedom and am against censoring people because I disagree with them. If you do not value freedom, then Steem is the place for you. Because I value freedom, Hive is where I'll be going.

20.03.2020 06:23
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Anyone who runs v23.0 agrees with the exclusion list. Please see my main reply -
https://steempeak.com/hive-101145/@roelandp/re-kopasi-q7hc3p

20.03.2020 06:54
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It will be interesting to see the difference between decentralization and centralization at least.

25.03.2020 00:33
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It is impossible to ever achieve a fully decentralized platform imo, but we can do our best at working towards it. Sun's vision was a heavily centralized and censored blockchain that Hive rejects and hopes to avoid while improving the governance system. I believe the price of Hive and Steem will be a good indicator of which the community stands with (if the vast discrepancy in number of witness votes does not already)

20.03.2020 05:13
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my dad used to say 'nothing is impossible, but as long as others make you believe it is, and you believe them, then it is impossible for as long as you believe the gospel'

20.03.2020 23:02
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Anyone who is running the 0.23.0 code.

20.03.2020 10:21
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Satoshi didn't give me 100 free BTC when he launched the chain. Thus, bitcoin is centralized.

25.03.2020 01:24
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Just like how steemit.com is blocking the posts of people who have been hostile to them? It's not as if the posts are being removed from the blockchain. It's just a frontend.

If we are going to say something is wrong, let's not try to colour it slightly appealing when our 'favourites' do the same thing.

29.03.2020 22:35
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Hive excludes the airdrop from people that voted to attack Steem. An opposite thinker that votes to centralize a blockchain is certainly thinking oppositely towards reality.

20.03.2020 06:02
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What is the reason that I am excluded? I don't know what to say. Thank you.

20.03.2020 18:33
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I'm unsure, as I believe the criteria was supposed to allow an airdrop to those that unvoted before the Hive announcement. Thankfully there is an avenue to appeal for the excluded airdrop using the Hive version of SPS.

20.03.2020 21:20
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I attempted delegated you a mere 5 HP for hive. Last I heard the delegating process is buggy, so it may or may not be there.
Hopefully that can be enough to get you started in the appeal process when it starts-or a few posts a week.

https://hiveblocks.com/@friendlystranger

21.03.2020 16:42
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Thats BS. Our votes for Justin are not as important as your votes for you? It wasnt an attack. It was the only chance you fools had to go mainstream. Now we will do it without your itchy hive covered asses.

20.03.2020 20:35
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If you take a closer look, the accounts only voting for one of the sockpuppet witnesses were not excluded from the airdrop. Even though collectively these accounts were used to attack Steem, it is (in my opinion) valid for a Steem stakeholder to vote for one of these accounts as a vote for Justin/Tron as a Steem witness. There was enough consensus for this that the threshold was 2 or more attack accounts voted for.

20.03.2020 21:23
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Not the point. Hive has been planned behind the scenes long before JSun showed up. This was always the plan. To Make a fool out of any investor who joins the team in order to make steemit grow. The witnesses never cared about us.

20.03.2020 21:27
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I'm going to have to disagree with you there. Most witnesses initially wanted to keep Steem going and a hard fork like this was a last resort. There was no long-term behind the scenes planning for this. This Hive hard fork was only begun in earnest after Steem was attacked. Even then it wasn't guaranteed to happen until the more gullible of the Steem community decided to support the attack, prolonging a stalemate. Everyone looking for a win-win should consider this fork one, especially those that had their Steem balances excluded from Hive's airdrop.

20.03.2020 21:39
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Steem wasnt attacked! Justin Sun had no ill intentions when he bought steemit. If the initial softfork wasnt done, everything woild be fine. This is scared witnesses who did zero decent research on tron, Justin or what we as a community would have brought. This is biting the hand that feeds and opting out. This is a huge mistake, ostracizing a reputable leader (which steem obviously lacked over the last 4 years) pushing rhetoric and not even giving Justin time to do due diligence and figure out a legitimate move to better steemit. I saw racism, I saw lies, I saw Justin attempt many times to work directly with witnesses to come to a resolution. Steemit will be just fine as it onboards passionate tron and BitTorrent community and works to become a mainstream social platform.

20.03.2020 21:45
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Any centralization of a blockchain network is an attack. There's no other way to put it.

Justin Sun is not reputable. His actions alone with Steem and Steemit so far prove that beyond any doubt. And then there is everything else he does, even with Tron. He's a fraud and a charlatan in the blockchain space.

No, he did not do anything to actually work with the witnesses elected by Steem stakeholders. Any tardy attempt he made to talk was always on his terms, and served only to stall for his own means. There was no real dialogue. He didn't buy Steem when he bought Steemit Inc and the real, non-sockpuppet witnesses were there to say so.

20.03.2020 21:55
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Oh your one of those people hung up on some fantasy of decentralization, the fact hive has and is able to enforce a blacklist, or the fact the former witnesses were able to softfork the funtionality of Justins stake proves just how ridiculous and unready the concept really is for practical usecase. Good luck out there, there is nothing decentralized about hive.

20.03.2020 21:58
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Hive was started from Steem, and excluded some accounts' balances from Steem to airdrop to the corresponding accounts on Hive. Steem still exists, we're using it. Don't use Hive if you don't want to. It's entirely optional. Any tokens that you or anyone else were airdropped on Hive at its launch are compliments of Hive. You are looking at it entirely backwards.

20.03.2020 22:18
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Dude he literally told you at the town hall a few days ago he was building a team to work directly with witnesses. He runs several businesses duder. He cant just jump in and work 24/7 on steemit, it was working fine when he got it, all he did was remove ugly banner ads and push the community upgrade. But you guys just arbitrarily forked the whole thing up.

20.03.2020 22:01
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A few days ago was much too late. In the meantime he's been continuing the voting war and begging certain communities of Steem stakeholders to support his attack, making all kinds of promises that would essentially ruin the security design of Steem. Creating Hive was not an arbitrary decision.

Anyway, if you don't want to listen to what's really going on, I won't waste more of my time. I've paid close attention to and participated in this saga since the beginning and I can't help anyone if they want to remain ignorant to the whole situation.

20.03.2020 22:21
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Im not ignorant, i'm a huge fan of Justin Sun. There is a difference. Its not an attack, its Tron finding steem lifeless and putting it on life support while the infectious hive tries to continue feeding on it. Justin is basically just using his power to apply antihistamines in an attempt to resuscitate a comatose project.

20.03.2020 22:48
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O vey, this thriving community is not living to its utmost potential because it lacks censorship, centralisation, bribes and threats to its governance, let me give some doses of totalitarianism and lies and everything will be solved!

22.03.2020 15:04
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한국 분들은 거의 스팀에 남겠네요...

20.03.2020 04:59
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Accounts excluded who voted a minimum of two sockpuppets or proxied someone who voted a minimum of two and who didn't unvote before the hive announcement with more than 1k sp

nothing about race here...

20.03.2020 05:14
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LOL! Enjoy the centralized pump and network you voted for. Hive doesn't airdrop on the people who voted to attack it.

20.03.2020 05:28
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How ridiculous to call it : „ethnic cleansing“ when you just get rid of assholes 🙀

20.03.2020 19:34
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Bleibst Du etwas auch hier? Ich hoffe, Du kommst auch zu Hive!

31.03.2020 20:17
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Bin schon auf Hive aber gerade am Umstellen, power down etc .....meanwhile poste ich auf APPICS und das sieht man ja noch hier.

01.04.2020 09:21
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Yea, ^^^ that is a hilariously crappy piece of propaganda.

"H" Who is censoring posts?
"I" Is so stupid I don't even know where to start.
"V" Justin took aggressive actions, A TEMPORARY hold was put on the steemit inc. funds, in defense of everyone on this chain, till there was clarification. It absolutely justified.
"E" Folks from all over the world are over on Hive, including some Koreans. So..... That can objectively be labeled Absolute Bullshit.

30.03.2020 05:33
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GodwinsLaw

At least in what the "E" stands for.

04.04.2020 00:12
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I missed all of this... I was over posting via Dporn. So what exactly happened with Hive?
I know Justin Sun bought Steemit and people didn't like the idea. Now what?

Do we get the tokens like in all major forks?

How does this affect the content creators?

How do you move to the new platform or just make a new account?

05.04.2020 10:15
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So what exactly happened with Hive?

https://peakd.com/communityfork/@hiveio/announcing-the-launch-of-hive-blockchain

Do we get the tokens like in all major forks?

Yep, equal to what you had on Steem when Hive launched.

How does this affect the content creators?

Post on Hive, we're all there. You can post on Steem too, but a lot of people aren't curating here anymore. It seems pointless to add content to a fucked up platform being run into the ground by the idiot who bought Stinc.

How do you move to the new platform or just make a new account?

Use https://hive.blog if you like steemit.com although https://peakd.com, the Hive version of SteemPeak, is pretty nice.

05.04.2020 11:19
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Thanks!

05.04.2020 12:42
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kr 을 의도적으로 배척하네요.
고민하지 않게 알아서 해 줘서 고맙네요.

20.03.2020 05:34
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How do you define "blockchain"? Is it just a centralized database controlled by one person or something more? How can you support someone who intends to run a blockchain like a centralized database? "Ethnic cleansing" is absolutely ridiculous. This isn't about race at all, it's about those who chose to attack Steem and made it clear by their actions they are not interested in what Hive represents (decentralization).

That said, I didn't agree with the criteria used or the subjective method for how it was determined. I understand the perspective of those who came up with it, but I would have preferred to just exclude the Steemit ninja-mined stake just as v0.22.2 did. You can read my witness post here for more details. Those who were excluded can submit a proposal to get their Hive tokens, as far as I understand.

Don't forget your steem is treated the same.

Maybe something is lost in translation here, but what do you mean by this? Do you mean in the future Hive might restrict your tokens? I would not support that as long as I'm a witness. This initial launch of Hive is about separating out those who actively attacked Steem by centralizing it.

20.03.2020 05:40
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Judging from the previous conversation, I believe that you are worth talking to.

You read lots of replies (including some on your own posts) or postings that explicitly say "korea" and/or "chinese". I don't think we need more evidence.

I am still waiting for the official airdrop and launch to confirm. Yet, such discriminate behavior contradicts the main value of Hive - decentralization.

Will write more after the fork. Good luck.

20.03.2020 06:24
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The criteria is clear,
1 vote for more than 2 fake witnesses and has more than 1000.SP

Do you not get the intent of this selection?

21.03.2020 05:56
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Unfortunately, the criteria is not clear. Take a look at my votes.
It will come back to you like a ninja mining stake.
Shady start once again.

21.03.2020 07:24
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Sorry to see that, Did you apply to the airdrop appeal?

Edit: I see that you will get your token and it was a mistake.

15.05.2020 09:21
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Hey Luke, as you can see on this post, @proxy.token has voted both side of them to buy time to talk each other. Many of Kr members wanted to protect this place. But initial launcher of Hive has treated us like a stranger or sock puppet of tron.

Every STEEM holder has their own voting right to 30 witenesses. That is a fundamental utility of STEEM. But you guys has excluded accounts that has voted to tron 2 or more. Do you think this is reasonable and decentralized way? How could you..

You guys already did violation of property right 2 times. HIVE is the most centralized and censorship-powered blockchain ever.I don't want to see the token listing of Permissioned blockchain on our Korean crypto-exchange.

20.03.2020 19:09
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Your property is not being touched. You owned STEEM, you still own your STEEM. What you don't own is HIVE, but you never owned it, so no one has touched your property.

21.03.2020 13:10
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Sorry, who's this?

21.03.2020 17:22
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HIVE IS ALIVE!!!

JOIN US, YOU'LL HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME BALANCE AS YOU HAVE HERE ON STEEM WITHOUT THE CENTRALIZATION AND CENSORSHIP!!

https://hive.blog
https://twitter.com/innerhive

ALSO, FUCK YOU @JUSTINSUNSTEEMIT


21.03.2020 17:22
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HIVE IS ALIVE!!!

JOIN US, YOU'LL HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME BALANCE AS YOU HAVE HERE ON STEEM WITHOUT THE CENTRALIZATION AND CENSORSHIP!!

https://hive.blog
https://twitter.com/innerhive

ALSO, FUCK YOU @JUSTINSUNSTEEMIT


21.03.2020 17:22
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HIVE IS ALIVE!!!

JOIN US, YOU'LL HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME BALANCE AS YOU HAVE HERE ON STEEM WITHOUT THE CENTRALIZATION AND CENSORSHIP!!

https://hive.blog


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21.03.2020 17:22
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doesn't matter

21.03.2020 17:25
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HIVE IS ALIVE!!!

JOIN US, YOU'LL HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME BALANCE AS YOU HAVE HERE ON STEEM WITHOUT THE CENTRALIZATION AND CENSORSHIP!!

https://hive.blog
https://twitter.com/innerhive

ALSO, FUCK YOU @JUSTINSUNSTEEMIT


21.03.2020 17:26
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Word. Truth is truth regardless of who says it.

02.04.2020 12:49
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+1

03.04.2020 07:12
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You guys got exactly what you voted for which was the Justin Sun sinking Steemy ship. Those who were wise knew what the end goal was if we couldn't stop it from sinking. We tried to save as many as we could, but you guys kept trying to keep us on the sinking ship. Finally a rescue ship was called in, and you still refused to save yourself.

Justin Sun Seriously violated private property rights when he stole the community stake. It wasn't use. He is further violating private property rights by censoring hive related posts on steemit, and a future hardfork will censor it from appearing on the condenser api. All at Justin Sun's/Tron's decretion. You voted for that centralizing San Francisco faggot, and now you got him. Oh, but you don't own what you voted for. He owns you, your logos. Congratulations! Furthermore, the concessus witnesses didn't violate your property rights by not Giving you free hive tokens. They were not Your hive tokens to begin with. You've demonstrated that you are a plague on the community and to DPOS. Enjoy what you voted for, and stop complaining that you aren't happy about it.

21.03.2020 15:45
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We tried to save as many as we could

What the heck? There is no evidence of an effort to save the place and money at all from you.

You guys tends to polarise people Tron vs Old-witness. That's the real problem. You are a REAL plague idiot. We're never been to build walls to retain our community.

Don't kid yourself, I don't need any useless fork token at all. :D Enjoy your the most centralized world.

21.03.2020 17:21
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You tried playing kingpin. It wasn’t sustainable. I loathe to say it but proxy.token’s return was the worst powerplay I’ve ever seen.

Nevertheless I totally appreciate that PT switched to maintaining a no HF status and I absolutely do not support a free platform where one can not vote freely. In this whole situation, ever since 22.2, nothing has gone right. Nobody EVER made any positive moves, it was a never-ending disaster, made worse day after day.

24.03.2020 04:20
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OMG! Another leech is coming. A real disaster is Steem has lots of farmers, like you, til now.

24.03.2020 04:57
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Thank you for the compliments. Sadly enough, I actually do support the PT side in the airdrop debate. I also did express my respect for installing the status quo.

I guess not, I guess I’m merely a leech and a farmer apparently. Too bad about all the time I invested in steem, without actually posting.

Enjoy your day and your pedestal. See you!

24.03.2020 05:01
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True, man.

29.03.2020 22:38
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Link to submit proposal because i rushed to action when this all first started and left a couple witnesses selected by mistake before i found out who was who, and boom i'm forked out of the airdrop. Let me know if/when they have a link for this.

20.03.2020 20:56
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I'm not sure what the overall solution will be, but I suggest keeping track of proposals here: https://peakd.com/me/proposals

I hope something gets worked out.

20.03.2020 21:48
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Head over to the Discord and chat people up. I'm sure you'll find a solution.

21.03.2020 13:11
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개천에서 용 난다

Dear Kopasi and all @proxy.token voters. You have a compelling point, yet "Ethnic Cleansing" is a very loaded, insinuating reasoning, which is obviously not the reason for this ruleset about the airdrop: Consensus in the Hive group decided the specific rulesets for this INITIAL airdrop. You can find the rules for the ruleset in the code of 23.0 which you are already stating in this article.

등잔 밑이 어둡다

Please notice the words: INITIAL.

I want to emphasize that the Hive chain is a new beginning, with 50+ developers working on the chain and its direct projects. So, exciting times ahead!

While I understand it is painful to see @proxy.token proxy voters with more than 1K SP being excluded from the INITIAL airdrop, I want to let you know that the case for "forgiveness" is very much alive. We all make mistakes.

HOWEVER, the funds for those not included on the Hive Airdrop have simple been moved to the DAO HIVE FUND and will NOT be burned or in any other way used for the foreseeable future.

"Hive Chain"에 대한 "Airdrop"-펀드가 여러분을 기다리고 있습니다:

The Airdrop Funds for the Hive Chain are waiting for you:

You are very welcome to start a Proposal on behalf of the Proxy.Token voters to unlock those funds.

Please understand that consensus was reached on the specific rules for the "exclusion of initial airdrop"-list. Anyone can run any software.

I very much encourage you once the fork is complete and stable, to look into a Voting Proposal and depending on how it looks I might very much be for a "forgiveness" vote, but it will depend on your proposal.

If you don't like that, obviously everyone is very welcome to stay with the Steem chain or run their own software.

  • 고생 끝에 낙이 온다
  • 김치국부터 마시지 말라
  • 원숭이도 나무에서 떨어진다
  • 매도 먼저 맞는 게 낫다

Looking forward to your proposal on behalf of proxy.token voters on the Hive chain!

20.03.2020 06:45
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Thanks for the reply.

So who made this decision? Please let me know. You said "consensus", which implies multiple people.

20.03.2020 07:09
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anyone running v23.0 and or will run v23.0 signals agreement with the code.

20.03.2020 08:22
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So if we have a hard fork that freezes your steem, it's okay because we are consensus. it's right?

20.03.2020 09:13
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Do what you want (in fact you can't be prevented from doing so; that is exactly what it means to be a decentralized system), people can decide whether to support it or not.

20.03.2020 10:18
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^^

05.04.2020 01:08
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And not to support means that the majority may steal the property of the "non-supporter"?
Absolutely captivating logic, this is a very strange understanding of community.

05.04.2020 10:43
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Thank you for letting me know. While our opinions may be different, I would like to let you know that it was pleasant discussing with you.

20.03.2020 09:38
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곰돌이가 @glory7님의 소중한 댓글에 시세변동을 감안하여 $0.003을 보팅해서 $0.039을 지켜드리고 가요. 곰돌이가 지금까지 총 7704번 $104.304을 보팅해서 $104.173을 구했습니다. @gomdory 곰도뤼~

26.03.2020 19:14
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^^

05.04.2020 01:08
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Glory7 go make your fork and exclude any account you want.

20.03.2020 08:35
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You're blocking accounts, accounts don't have an ethnicity, just chuck that line back at them. There's nothing to defend here.

20.03.2020 07:57
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Yes very true. It is completely decided through a script which ran an objective comparison and came up with the result based on the ruleset.

20.03.2020 08:34
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And who set the rule? The rule itself is very subjective, as @lukestroke also wrote.

20.03.2020 09:41
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Quite! One thing I dislike more than racism, and there's not a lot of things, is defamatory claims against someone for being racist, at least when those claims are obviously not based in fact and are almost certainly just being done to harm someone's, or in this case (bizarrely) a blockchain's reputation.

20.03.2020 15:03
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I was eagerly waiting to join Hive and when I logged in to my wallet there it says "Host Error" after being on Steemit for almost 4 years I can't understand why I can't use Hive!? I can log in but can't upvote or comment etc. I never supported Justin and 0nly have 713 Steem power and 88 steem, so why is it not working for me!?

20.03.2020 19:23
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Because Hive is a joke. Justin Sun is actually the best thing that ever happened to steem.

20.03.2020 20:31
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Justin is a low life wanna be Jack Ma. Steem will die because of Justin.

21.03.2020 02:04
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Lol, so true.

21.03.2020 05:09
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Lol!

21.03.2020 17:58
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Hi there

I've been reading through many comments related to new hive chain and I've seen your comment too. Many users are being torn, however majority seem to be moving to new hive.

Are you fully moving there or will you stay on both chains? Just curious. I'm trying to figure out what to do myself.

26.03.2020 16:53
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This was a huge fork. It always takes time to make adjustments. Just be Be patient and it will come. My wallet isn’t there yet either

20.03.2020 21:11
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ok thanks, I can't do any curating etc without it.

21.03.2020 17:56
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At Peakd.com the wallets are working

22.03.2020 07:13
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I tried going there but I can't log in!?I spent an hour on that earlier, thanks though!

22.03.2020 07:15
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It looks like your HP is still on the hive chain.

I also had an issue with steemconnect [hivesigner] trying to post early yesterday too. I ended up using something else to log in, and I could then post. Steemconnect/hivesigner is reportedly fixed.

try hive.blog or peakd.com again.

21.03.2020 17:16
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thanks, I tried that but they don't work for me.

21.03.2020 17:57
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HIVE IS ALIVE!!!

JOIN US, YOU'LL HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME BALANCE AS YOU HAVE HERE ON STEEM WITHOUT THE CENTRALIZATION AND CENSORSHIP!!

https://hive.blog
https://twitter.com/innerhive

ALSO, FUCK YOU @JUSTINSUNSTEEMIT


21.03.2020 18:00
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It looks like hivesigner went down; I'm getting 404 errors, It should be back up soon I would imagine.

21.03.2020 18:24
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HIVE IS ALIVE!!!

JOIN US, YOU'LL HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME BALANCE AS YOU HAVE HERE ON STEEM WITHOUT THE CENTRALIZATION AND CENSORSHIP!!

https://hive.blog
https://twitter.com/innerhive

ALSO, FUCK YOU @JUSTINSUNSTEEMIT


21.03.2020 18:34
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HIVE IS ALIVE!!!

JOIN US, YOU'LL HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME BALANCE AS YOU HAVE HERE ON STEEM WITHOUT THE CENTRALIZATION AND CENSORSHIP!!

https://hive.blog
https://twitter.com/innerhive

ALSO, FUCK YOU @JUSTINSUNSTEEMIT


21.03.2020 19:57
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HIVE IS ALIVE!!!

JOIN US, YOU'LL HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME BALANCE AS YOU HAVE HERE ON STEEM WITHOUT THE CENTRALIZATION AND CENSORSHIP!!

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21.03.2020 19:57
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Where are you trying to access it at...
Go to this site https://peakd.com and log in with your Steem name and keys, set a 5 dig PIN and unlock your account there. once in click on your name in the upper right and click wallet on the drop down menu.... Wallah

22.03.2020 10:54
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I've tried before to log in there but it won't work for my for 2 days now! Thanks though for the info if I find time I will try again, but at least I can keep using Steemit , all of my posts that I make are on the Appics App anyways that automatically post over to Steemit. But still it would have been nice to try out the new site.👍✌✊

22.03.2020 17:48
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No accounts are blocked. The accounts will still work fine on Steem (in fact also on Hive). Hive invites supporters of a decentralized blockchain who fought (unsuccessfully) to decentralize Steem and keep it decentralized, and honors them with an airdrop equal to their Steem holdings.

20.03.2020 10:20
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Apologies, wrong choice of word maybe! I meant 'not receiving the airdrop' of course!

20.03.2020 14:46
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In no way should anyone that voted for the sock puppets get a pass.

That is double the case for the Koreans.

They could have at any time removed the sock puppets from power.

They decided to ask for ransom instead of trying to bridge the gap between tron and us.

That's what I expected during the talks with Justin. Creating understanding due to their tie breaker position.

Instead they wanted to get payed and accepted bribes from Justin.

And now this post. I find them despicable and it has nothing to do with their race. How dare they even insinuate such a thing.

20.03.2020 11:15
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Even if hardfork 0.22.2 freezes certain accounts, @proxy.token tried to stay neutral. @proxy.token voted on both sides.

@proxy.token tried to make a conversation with Tron and steem witnesses. You can look at SCT discord. Anybody can watch the conversation.

Why do you blame Korean and @proxy.token?

Hive will have a plan to freeze certain accounts that have different opinion from hive's opinion..
I am really disappointed.

20.03.2020 11:46
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No one is freezing any funds on Hive.

And please Google meaning of the word "neutral".

Neutral would have been not voting at all. They were not neutral.

20.03.2020 11:49
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Voting for enough witnesses that neither side could istitute a hard fork is one of the most neutral things somebody could do.

20.03.2020 12:04
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No it is not. It's playing sides.

Not voting for anyone has the same effect if neutrality was the goal. It was not.

20.03.2020 12:12
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Not voting for anyone would have let the chain get taken over by who ever had the greater cash flow. Which probably would have been sun with the help of the exchanges

Again, thanks to votes from SCT and the rest of the korean community neither side could have made a move.

Witness votes are not a one shot deal so choosing to not vote is not the same as voting for both sides.

20.03.2020 12:40
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Trying to support both sides can also be counted as not taking sides; ergo basically neutral.

20.03.2020 12:07
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Helping maintain centralization on the chain is in no way neutral.

20.03.2020 12:14
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Helping to maintain centralization on the chain would be voting for 17+ tron witnesses. What they did is prevent either side from acting and tried to encourage conversation.

20.03.2020 12:17
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They did not encourage conversation. They made a list of demands.

20.03.2020 12:35
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What demands?

20.03.2020 12:40
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They decided to ask for ransom instead of trying to bridge the gap between tron and us.

Source?

20.03.2020 11:51
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Go to their discord and search for the talks between witnesses and Justin.
Or simply search through Ausbitbank posts and find the video.

20.03.2020 11:54
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Why should I have to sift through discord chat logs? If what you said is true then surely someone has made a post about it with the relevant information.

20.03.2020 11:55
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There's a post on my blog.

20.03.2020 12:10
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https://goldvoice.club/steem/@lordbutterfly/unfortunately-the-korean-justin-discussion-was-a-complete-waste-of-time

This one? Because I am still not seeing any kind of evidence except for you saying something happened. And I really don't feel like going on a hunt for something that may not even exist.

20.03.2020 12:15
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There were a lot of people who didn't know who to vote for, and from my understanding they can make a pleading to obtain their hive tokens-but the process isn't ready yet. They may have contributed to the harm, but didn't have the requisite intent.

I do tend to agree regarding certain people like Proxy.token who knew what they were doing, and ultimately gave the chain to the Chinese communist party. People like Proxy.token didn't lose anything, they just chose to go down with the ship and no matter how often people tried to save them they tried to take us down with them. At this point keep the dead buried; they are a deadly plague and imminent danger to any dpos. Their ghost can do their own forensics on how they damned themselves. They knowingly and willingly voted for the CCP. And now, and it may already have been the case, the Chinese communist Party owns them and their Logos (speech and reason). Without Logos, they are just walking mindless corpses.

21.03.2020 15:24
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21.03.2020 17:17
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21.03.2020 17:17
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21.03.2020 17:17
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Exactly @lordbutterfly good riddance to them. I remember that giant extortion letter full of demands from the community. Now they want to cry about the airdrop exclusion , cry racist, censorship blah blah blah.
I say WELCOME TO THE CONSEQUENCE OF YOU OWN FUCKING ACTIONS

22.03.2020 10:45
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The demand, as I understood it, was for a 3-day power down. Well, they have control of the steem blockchain now and the power down still takes 13 weeks. I wonder why that is? Could it be that a great many people have started a power down?

The above is a rhetorical question. I guess they realized the reasoning why a 3-day powerdown was anathema to the former STEEM witnesses.

03.04.2020 23:08
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¿ Por curiosidad?
¿ Con que criterio se determina quien es una marioneta de Tron?

20.03.2020 17:57
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Todos los que corrieron el código del fork 22.5, que Steemit votó, y usaban todos el mismo servidor en China. Es un grupo de 20 cuentas que fueron creadas todos el mismo día, comenzaron a correr todas el mismo código, y todas fueron votadas todas las cuentas de Steemit, Poloniex, Binance y Huobi. Dada su uniformidad, es fácil ver que fueron creadas todas por la misma persona, y por eso se les llama "sockpuppet" (marioneta), porque no eran personas reales sino todas la misma persona. Steemit y Justin Sun admitieron este hecho. Puedes revisar los posts en @steemitblog.

Adicionalmente tampoco se les da Hive a los que apoyan el fork 22.5 aunque no sean marionetas, porque están apoyando un esfuerzo de centralización no deseada para el blockchain.

21.03.2020 12:55
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Its at the very least racist. The Hive anti chinese propaganda was really abhorent. Hive is a joke.

20.03.2020 20:29
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It's not racist to call a government totalitarian. You can love Chinese people and hate the Chinese government. It's also not racist to understand the political and economic reality in China where private companies have to act according to the agenda of the CCP or perish. It has nothing to do with race, ethnicity or nationality, but with government and allegiance. It's not racism but simple politics, the opposition of a people against the plans of an enemy party that wishes to conquer them.

You can find more about the relationship between the government and the private sector by doing some research on your own. The following article explains some of it.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/02/07/we-cant-tell-if-chinese-firms-work-for-the-party/

21.03.2020 13:07
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Justin Sun isnt the chinese government. He's just a guy, a hard working entrepreneur whos innovations have made my life better.

21.03.2020 20:21
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21.03.2020 21:24
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He isn't the Chinese government, sure, but he acts within the interest of the Chinese government, pays taxes to the CCP and sure acts very totalitarian. Read this post:
https://goldvoice.club/steem/@aggroed/my-plan

21.03.2020 23:02
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forgiveness ?

Who did what wrong, who judge, and who forgive whom? in the DeCentralized World ?

Are you tyrant in tyranny, or are you 20 oligarch in oligarchy ?

21.03.2020 01:55
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I voted a few witnesses for Tron by accident when the call was made for witness votes. One I learned my error I switched the votes immediately. I am a real person and very much a supporter of the.ö community. I was upset at first but now I learned it was a screaming process used by a by bot a personal attack. Please I ask for a forgiveness vote so I can continue on the hive chain. Thank you

21.03.2020 21:03
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I see your mate's on the list, I guess he'll be moaning about that.

Sad not to see crystalieu or however you spell it there.

I was also wondering whether blockbrothers might be on there, they did kind of say they were happy to consider working with Sun.

Work, why would you want to do a thing like that!?

20.03.2020 07:59
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Make your own fork and exclude anyone you want.

20.03.2020 08:36
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20.03.2020 09:14
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Why do you care if HIVE isn't going to give you any free tokens? You still have your steem, let people do what they want with their stake

20.03.2020 09:39
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Why wouldn't they? Hive is a steem fork and the existence is going to crash steem. If the community was going to leave to a new chain and exclude everyone but you, you would probably be pretty annoyed about it as well.

let people do what they want with their stake

Says the person defending the exclusion of certain steemians stake.

20.03.2020 11:48
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Boo hoo, should have thought of that before siding with Justin!

20.03.2020 11:54
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They didnt side with Justin, try and keep up here. They voted for enpugh witnesses to keep a power balance and stop either side from hard forking and encouraged communication.

20.03.2020 11:57
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So then they can stick with steem! Looking for some scapegoat for a free lunch is lame, get over it and move on, we all have

20.03.2020 12:17
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So then they can stick with steem!

Again, they didnt side with justin.

Looking for some scapegoat for a free lunch is lame, get over it and move on, we all have

Thats a real strong statment coming from someone who is going to be stuffing his face with that free lunch.

20.03.2020 12:19
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Lol oh wow as if its a life-changing amount, look at me and my few extra digital cents, seriously?! You're just looking for a bone to pick!

20.03.2020 12:21
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Hey why dont you show me up and send your hive to @null instead of sitting here boasting about how you already gotten over other people not getting the same benefits that you are.

20.03.2020 12:23
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Lol because I'm not the one with the issue here

20.03.2020 12:26
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Thats what I thought, thanks for playing.

20.03.2020 12:29
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Yea, they just make a ransom to remove downvotes and shorter power down.

21.03.2020 04:50
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You mean the things Justin Sun wanted to do in the first place? They prevented Sun from hard forking the chain so that they could demand he do the things he wanted to do?

Fucking lol, again, as I asked the other guy. Please show the proof of this claim.

21.03.2020 05:42
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Proxy token posted a whole fucking post. Asking witnesses to comment on those topics. U claim to know whats going on but completely oblivious of everything that went on in last 2 weeks.

21.03.2020 06:53
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Thank you for posting a source, I actually found another one up in their blog. That said, I really don't see these as demands. More like figuring out who to vote for. You made it sound like they were threatening to vote for Sun if the demands weren't met. Or visa versa.

The only witness they were voting for that answered postively seems to be timcliff. In the post in their blog ausbitbank gave a flat no and they voted him. There were plenty of others who would give them what ever they wanted. I didn't see a comment from blocktrades or yabbapmatt or roelandp, but I doubt thats the kind of thing they would support.

These are real people you know, and unlike Sun they bought their steem at market value. They should be able to vote for witnesses that aline more to their values.

Thats what literally every other voter does.

21.03.2020 07:25
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Some people made mistakes voting for the wrong ppl in the confusion while trying to help and now will be possibly excluded smh (including me) I shoulda just sat on my hands and done nothing maybe? This is crazy.

20.03.2020 20:01
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Yet another proof that we are dealing with ideologically possessed communists who don't believe in private property rights.

What a lovely message for all the investors and users.

If you don't like our commy utopia, we will excommunicate you.

This is their vision of decentralization :D

LOL

20.03.2020 09:49
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하이브가 도대체 뭔지...?;;;;;;;

Posted using Partiko iOS

20.03.2020 13:24
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what can I say? I didn't even know what I've supported because I voted @justyy as my proxy.

来自于 [WhereIn Android] (http://www.wherein.io)

20.03.2020 13:33
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https://peakd.com/me/proposals you can find a group of people and gather money ( hive coin ) and create a proposal. Once you create it, let me know about that and I will vote. Maybe more hive people will vote and those who didn't get the ardrop will get it.

21.03.2020 13:09
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I don't have access to steemsql, so I can't quickly find things. I see your interactions with jestyy goes back over a year and the type of rewards he offered, but I wasn't able to find out when you set him as a proxy for witness voting.

Trying to identify when that occurred, if it happened before Sun purchased steemit, then it might be able to help the upcoming appeals process. Even if it did occur afterwards don't rule out an appeal.

There reportedly is an appeals process starting up at some point. At the moment hivesigner appears to be down with a 404 error, otherwise, as I have done with others, I'd delegate 5HP to you to get started with. If It don't do it in 24 hours, lemme know.

21.03.2020 18:17
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감사합니다

https://steemd.com/tx/a597a8ef39ec3cf93e731e6ddfe1c887b27998b5

image.png


https://goldvoice.club/steem/@justyy/4tou3k

그가 우리를 계속 섬길 것이라고 생각하기 때문입니다.

22.03.2020 05:04
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Nice find. Definitely do an appeal. I'll tag @pfunk , He/she might know what next to do.

22.03.2020 13:13
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Yeah he'll want to do an appeal when that process is set up.

22.03.2020 23:41
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I managed to get the transaction done that should have delegated you 5 HP. But at the moment, it appears Justin Sun is doing a ddos on hive so I can't verify.

21.03.2020 19:46
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고마워 Delegation 을 받았습니다

22.03.2020 04:09
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Why was I included I proxied Dan and only had set my votes before that years ago

20.03.2020 18:57
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I think they have a way to appeal for that. Check their discord server or message any witness to help you with that. I'm sure they will understand your situation. At least I hope so.

20.03.2020 21:04
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https://peakd.com/me/proposals you can find a group of people and gather money ( hive coin ) and create a proposal. Once you create it, let me know about that and I will vote. Maybe more hive people will vote and those who didn't get the ardrop will get it.

21.03.2020 13:08
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Hi @kopasi I am kind of pissed off as I was eagerly waiting to Join Hive today I logged in and my wallet does not work it just says "Host Error" so I can't upvote or comment or do anything. I thought it was suppose to mirror Steemit. I have been on Steemit for almost 4 years, this is not a good intrduction to the new HIVE Platform.😵

20.03.2020 19:15
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Hey Karen, don't fret! Your account has its share of the airdrop just as it was on Steem at the time of the fork: https://hiveblocks.com/@karenmckersie

Any issues you're experiencing are temporary hiccups that will happen when something like this occurs. I believe https://peakd.com (SteemPeak but for Hive) should work for you.

20.03.2020 21:27
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Oh ok that's awesome, thanks so much for your reply @pfunk !✌✊👍

20.03.2020 23:06
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Now when I check my wallet it says "Access Denied" I will try tomorrow, today is a bust!✊💪

21.03.2020 02:08
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I don't think the wallet subdomain is up.

You can get an idea what is in your wallet through steemblock
https://hiveblocks.com/@karenmckersie

21.03.2020 17:20
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yes thank you, I seen that but without my wallet I can't do any commenting or upvoting etc. At least Steemit is still working good!

21.03.2020 18:01
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HIVE IS ALIVE!!!

JOIN US, YOU'LL HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME BALANCE AS YOU HAVE HERE ON STEEM WITHOUT THE CENTRALIZATION AND CENSORSHIP!!

https://hive.blog
https://twitter.com/innerhive

ALSO, FUCK YOU @JUSTINSUNSTEEMIT


21.03.2020 18:04
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HIVE IS ALIVE!!!

JOIN US, YOU'LL HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME BALANCE AS YOU HAVE HERE ON STEEM WITHOUT THE CENTRALIZATION AND CENSORSHIP!!

https://hive.blog
https://twitter.com/innerhive

ALSO, FUCK YOU @JUSTINSUNSTEEMIT


21.03.2020 19:58
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@pfunk I tried the peakd link and can't figure out how to log in, it directed me to log into GitHub for some reason even though I have keychain, so I signed up for GitHub and still can't figure out how to log into Hive , no wonder people don't sign up for these things, lol Im giving up after an hour of wasted time try9ng to go on Hive again today Why does it now say Access Denied!? It would be so much easier if I could just log into my wallet like everyone else, I guess I will just stay on Steemit, thanks for the help!

21.03.2020 16:37
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Try to log in the Hive.com or Peakd.com now. ;-) It should work fine for a development of little bit more than 3 weeks. :-)

06.04.2020 04:58
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same for me pfunk back from a hiatus.. do i just use my password to sign into hive? regards cnts

07.04.2020 02:58
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Yes. https://hive.blog will work just like Steemit, and you can use https://peakd.com with your posting and optionally active key using Peaklock or with the Hive Keychain browser add-on.

All accounts and credentials carried over to Hive.

07.04.2020 03:30
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@kopasi please look into this, when the confusion started i placed votes on people who i thought where the original witnesses and i even made a post educating people about who the different witnesses are

https://goldvoice.club/steem/@truce/here-is-the-list-of-justin-s-witnesses

Once I found out who i believed where the different witnesses are i went BACK into the vote list and did my best among the confusion to ensure all my votes where correct. I apparently missed a couple as a obvious mistake. Why would i vote all original witnesses and leave two or more new ones voted for on purpose?? This was all done before I knew anything about hive. I have over 58k steem and now i will be excluded from the fork due to this??

I had my vote for @therealwolf for since i can remember and only started trying to vote otherwise when everyone said they needed my help. Now boom i get excluded. As of reading this i have removed all my votes other than for sure original names that I know for sure where not new witnesses. I am requesting that my case be re-evaluated as I planned to move to hive. Any feed back is much appreciated.

The current witnesses I have votes for is as follows:

@steemitboard
@blockbrothers
@arcange
@therealwolf
@aggroed
@drakos
@yabamatt
@anyx
@steempress
@gtg
@themarkymark

Not sure what 2 or more witnesses I had voted for that caused me to be on this list but if I populated on this list then it must be from prior to me finding out who is who. There has been quite the confusion and i'm sure I am not the only one.

20.03.2020 19:54
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Hey @truce. I think what you need to do is create a proposal using the proposal system on Hive. Basically saying what you wrote in your comment. Then community will vote. Based on that you will get your airdrop. Before you create a proposal maybe get more clarification how to properly do it in Hive’s discord.

Good luck!

20.03.2020 20:47
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Ok thanks, will do.

20.03.2020 21:01
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How to create a proposal in hive ? Any link please ?

20.03.2020 21:17
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I don’t know yet. I would ask people on discord or wait for an announcement with instructions.

21.03.2020 00:26
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any word?

03.04.2020 09:39
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Read this regarding second airdrop: https://peakd.com/hive/@blocktrades/quick-update-on-hive-related-activities-at-blocktrades

Read comments in that posts too. Some answer the question on airdrop on excluded accounts.

03.04.2020 18:32
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06.04.2020 22:56
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https://peakd.com/me/proposals you can find a group of people and gather money ( hive coin ) and create a proposal. Once you create it, let me know about that and I will vote. Maybe more hive people will vote and those who didn't get the ardrop will get it.

21.03.2020 13:10
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I am not sure how many people will likely end up doing an appeal. It's not much, but I attempted delegated you a small amount (5) of HP so you can start the process of appeal once it starts-or you might be able to do a post there. Perhaps others could do the same.

https://hiveblocks.com/@truce

21.03.2020 17:35
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HIVE IS ALIVE!!!

JOIN US, YOU'LL HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME BALANCE AS YOU HAVE HERE ON STEEM WITHOUT THE CENTRALIZATION AND CENSORSHIP!!

https://hive.blog


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21.03.2020 17:39
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This is a great time to learn of the dangers of centralization of power.

Many months ago I was firmly against the practice of SP delegation. The power of many minds was converted into one vote. That one vote was then used to support things like plagiarism and false advertising. People were not free to decide. Instead the responsibility to decide was placed into the hands of ONE, and since only ONE could decide, everyone else had to deal with the consequences of that decision.

The content on the platform was terrible. That content being supported by things like bid bots and delegation pools turned eyes away. Eyes are the most valuable asset when it comes to a content production platform. People put short term profits ahead of EYES and we all watched the value of everything we worked to achieve plummet.

Now we have proxy voting. Similar to SP delegation pools. It's CENTRALIZED power. The one at the top made the decision, and now everyone else who FORFEITED their responsibilities has to suffer the consequences.

This proxy token group voted in support of centralization. That was YOUR decision. That's what YOU wanted.

The proxy token group actively participated in a Sybil attack on a blockchain. That is what YOU wanted to do.

You got EVERYTHING you wanted. Majority of the community was forced out, due to YOUR decisions.

Now money is involved and suddenly you feel like you're being treated unfairly?

How does that even make sense?

The majority took the brunt of the impact, and was forced to leave. You're free to stay here on Steem, as "winners."

You centralized your power. You voted for centralization. Centralization is clearly what you want. So have it. It's yours. Why are you even interested in Hive? That's not what you voted for. Is it because of the money?

You made your call. You got what you wanted. Enjoy it. You win.

20.03.2020 22:56
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Haha, the fact an account from a project (top witness now) that sold itself out to Justin Sun is downvoting this comment along with the steemit account votes is all the validation I need that bailing from STEEM was the absolute correct choice.

23.03.2020 04:10
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I'd respond properly but I don't want to give anyone a reason to look at this place. That's far more powerful than things like censorship and this centralized power trip they're on. I won't even shit post for auto votes because that would give people a reason to look at this place.

What downvote? What's a witness? Who's Justin Sun? Steemit? Never heard of it.

23.03.2020 05:04
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Of course you are right, but it's like a train wreck in slow motion. I can't look away! 🤓

23.03.2020 05:17
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Well said. You hit the nail on the head.

03.04.2020 23:00
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I agree with you

08.04.2020 16:28
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Anyone who contributed to have 90% of the chain controlled by one server controlled by one entity for months is not welcome on th
Good riddanceis new chain..

20.03.2020 23:37
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Yup... totally agree, but someday, we gotta be open to the idea that Hive will hardfork into another chain, say
LIBERTY (FromAssholesWhalesStakeHolder)... and then folks will mass powerdown Hive and sell it to oblivion after the hardfork like what's going to happen to Steem. The precedent has been set. I look forward to doubling my HIVE when that happens.

23.03.2020 01:54
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This one raises one of the major concerns I was thinking when the Hive split off; they claimed that they were going to maintain the 'account' on the new servers.

Let's think about that for a moment.

You have an account at bank A, the managers at the bank have an argument with the CEO, so, they decide that they will create bank B across the street and will maintain the accounts and the values of them.

You as a user have an account at bank A and a duplicate at bank B; you can then sell off your accounts and double the funds.

Simply, if cryptos were treated as a type of security, there would be a group of people who would be going to jail for 10-20 years a piece for pulling this kind of stunt.

We should each (ESPECIALLY people who invested real money into the platform) be asking ourselves how we can maintain trust in a system that can be torn apart and redistributed because of those within the community with the most influence?

26.03.2020 16:46
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I couldnt have said it better my self. Well spoken 👏

02.04.2020 02:07
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wow. so. I have to say. your example doesn't work with physical money. doubling a list doesn't double funds...

the fact that reality and said example can't work together also explains how doing this is not impossible or wrong with pretend money. which is crypto. because pretend money is not real money

03.04.2020 07:25
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Well, yes, copying physical money is illegal, but when you get into reserve banking, only about 10% of the money is physically printed, so, the effect would be the same, so, copying the account and promising to honor the value creates the same effect (never would happen in the real world).

But it does double the funds; or at least the coins at the rate they can be traded at.

Ex; when the split happens, you have a 10k account valued at 5k. That means you doubled the coins, and if the value remained (it shouldn't) you will have doubled the value.

I realize it's far from a perfect analog, but for real, if cryptocurrencies were treated as securities, Sun and all the witnesses would EACH be facing 10-20 years in pound you in the ass federal prison. Make no mistake about it.

Your counter goes to show that crypto currencies are effectively a ponzi scheme in that the value of the 'investment' depends on new investment dollars coming in.

03.04.2020 20:54
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what I meant is the 2nd bank owner would have to put actual money into it to make it work. which would be stupid since he would have to provide enough money for all of his client's withdrawals. otherwise I would see my bank account having $5000, try but fail to withdraw. because the actual money is not there. it is completely different because the money has to be there

crypto currencies are effectively a ponzi scheme

what. no. what do you think steem originally is, by design? the blockchain itself perfectly serves it's purpose. people who like consuming content get on it and optionally support authors they like. people who like creating content post their stuff here because it might pay off. it works. it is perfect.

people don't understand steem because they don't want to. all they want to see is a pile of numbers. there is a lot more to it than numbers.

but I guess it is a pointless argument since not a single fucking witness ever wanted to actually work on mass adoption, which is, free instant registrations. from this perspective, they're all retarded

03.04.2020 21:15
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ps: 10% of a lot of money is still a lot of money. actual physical money is not an idea, it is simply fiat money. utility tokens have nothing to do with it. utility tokens are basically companies pushing out a product, not actual fiat money

03.04.2020 21:24
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You cant, but same thing will happened if the company you invested for files for bankruptcy.

05.04.2020 17:56
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theyre both already super cheap but will all end up like golos, so will eops. All @dan larimer chains are scams now

Only telos is the right chain with real governance. Steem and EOS are still useful. hive is more centralized than steem because you saw how fast they moved like a vertically integrated centralized organism lol.

Vitalik and Tone Vays were right

https://www.fxstreet.com/cryptocurrencies/news/vitalik-buterin-calls-eos-tron-and-neo-centralized-piece-of-trash-201902080151

03.04.2020 03:17
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That's the issue with DPOD though, you can buy enough stake to control the chain.

05.04.2020 16:19
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@transisto
I'm very curious to know if you are currently in charge of all the decisions regarding the Hive fork and if this was your decision or if others were involved?

23.03.2020 12:27
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You are still controlled by a ninja mined stake, all witnesses will be decided by @freedom

25.03.2020 01:55
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That's a good point, I'm equally disgusted by the ninja-mined stake there. btrade and freedom, at least btrade is participating and trying to add value, Freedom, not so much.

15.05.2020 06:40
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Nothing like using a centralized solution to thwart an attempt at centralization, eh?

29.03.2020 19:44
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These guys just destroyed my already small reputation for having these same concerns.

21.03.2020 01:39
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I don't understand what you guys are complaining about. You were happy with steem as long as there's no downvote and shorter power down. Both those things are not present in HIVE and you still have all your steem tokens as before.

21.03.2020 04:46
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@mightypanda You will know this correctly, if steemit blocks your steem account after buying steem from hard earn money. And you are not in a situation to do anything for release of funds. Think....
@justinsunsteemit how about this.

21.03.2020 05:03
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Ned said he disclosed ninja mine stake. Still justin bought thinking he would make a quick buck. Didnt work out well. I genuinely want to know why these guys want to get on hive chain. It has all the things they did not like abt steem on thr. And since hive token is an airdrop and not a swap what they they r complaining abt.

21.03.2020 06:51
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@kopasi I am also don't like the situation. You can see my thoughts on this by post
https://goldvoice.club/steem/@mehta/our-thoughts-supporting-20-witness-justinsunsteemit-hive-punishment
Can you know how to contact Mr. Justin Sun? If you have something let me know at discord with same id.

21.03.2020 04:52
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I appreciate this post. The HIVE hackers have alot to answer for. It is important to see what the secret forkers are doing behind the scenes.

SteemPeak has turned into a HIVE shill tread, hopefully the bee's buzz off soon and stop the spamming. Oh I forgot they are all cross-posting lol.

21.03.2020 14:51
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HIVE IS ALIVE!!!

JOIN US, YOU'LL HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME BALANCE AS YOU HAVE HERE ON STEEM WITHOUT THE CENTRALIZATION AND CENSORSHIP!!

https://hive.blog
https://twitter.com/innerhive

ALSO, FUCK YOU @JUSTINSUNSTEEMIT


21.03.2020 15:32
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HIVE IS ALIVE!!!

JOIN US, YOU'LL HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME BALANCE AS YOU HAVE HERE ON STEEM WITHOUT THE CENTRALIZATION AND CENSORSHIP!!

https://hive.blog
https://twitter.com/innerhive

ALSO, FUCK YOU @JUSTINSUNSTEEMIT


21.03.2020 15:32
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HIVE IS ALIVE!!!

JOIN US, YOU'LL HAVE EXACTLY THE SAME BALANCE AS YOU HAVE HERE ON STEEM WITHOUT THE CENTRALIZATION AND CENSORSHIP!!

https://hive.blog


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21.03.2020 15:32
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Lol.... not sure if they are hackers. But great opportunist, they surely are.

Well as an investor, I can't be more pleased with how things turned out, I figured there was a hardforked planned, and I knew the exchanges will likely support as well as freeze for maintenance (per usual with a coin fork). I manage to sell 1/2 my Steem for avg close to 8000 Satoshis, and remaining 1/2 I got free Hive from Bittrex which I can freely trade.

Now, I'm just waiting for Hive to get bid up by fomo investors (aka bag holders) before selling a nice portion of my stake on bittrex for even greater profits....to much ego an too little thinking = opportunity.

Justinsun and witnesses have full control now. If you want you guys can do whatever you want, here are some extreme examples:

A) make 1 day powerdown for ONLY the exclusion list and of course justinsun's friends like binance and houbei.

B) Freeze all Hive benefactors, the old witness, dolphines, orcas, and whales who are now doing 100% powerdown OR freeze their transfer in a hardfork that say > 1,000 SP (Same as what they did to you guys), so they can't sell and dump Steem until it goes down 90% in value from 2600 Satoshi to like 260 Sats to push existing Steem users out (and trust me they will do this, I already have right at Steem's last peak price in Satoshis).

C) Hell... you can just mute all the big Hive accounts on Steem with a hardfork...... but what would be the fun in that?

Basically the possibilities are endless.

BUT

....Unfortunately, you don't have much time. The big powerdown starts coming down in 2-3 days time (or at least until Bittrex allows deposits....Thank god i took the gamble and deposited into Bittrex before the shit hit the fan!)....then Steem will crash unless these big duo Steem/Hive stake holders can't sell.

Good luck trying to talk to Justin to get his support to take action now.

23.03.2020 02:11
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Sounds like fun to me lolz. The Bees/Steemit Classic are focused on stealing steemit.com's audience, they deserve whatever is coming to them.

B) Freeze all Hive benefactors - is a valid point you and maybe they should get a taste of their own medicine.

They declared war against this platform, so Justin Sun TRON should war on and show them no respect at all.

You clearly know what you are going and have made the right moves. Thanks for sharing.

23.03.2020 12:41
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Ha! will never happen man. Justin isn't fast or smart enough or even cares, in my opinion He was just after making a quick buck with getting Steem on the cheap, instead of just powering it down, he gave the old guards of Steem the excuse they needed to make some $$ and take Steem's sake for their own, not to mention all the free witness votes the top20 got from all that happened.

I could be wrong, but , 0.1% chance Justin will implement anything timely to counter the moves.

Come over to Hive, it's just like old Steem, only everyone there is now richer thanks to Justin.... lol.

23.03.2020 13:06
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Maybe, maybe not? Time will tell. I will watch the power battle unfold.

The monetary gain is not really my thing, but I think Money is the main driving force for HIVE, helping to escalate the hate towards Justin or any buyer that wants in on the party.

I will be staying with Steemit and the projects still involved. Thanks for the offer and I wish you well :)

23.03.2020 14:58
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money is the driving force for all of these blockchains. Without the money for incentive, the blockchain is pointless.

26.03.2020 01:33
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Hi there

I've been reading through many comments related to new hive chain and I've seen your comment too. Many users are being torn, however majority seem to be moving to new hive.

Are you fully moving there or will you stay on both chains? Just curious. I'm trying to figure out what to do myself.

26.03.2020 13:23
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I have moved over to just hive. I generally don't like the extra work of posting on multiple platforms so I decided to just do hive.

02.04.2020 04:35
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Thx for your reply. I think i will stick around on both chains for time being.

I also figured that you may find this post interesting and worth your time:
https://goldvoice.club/steem/@project.hope/project-hope-curation-trainl-on-both-chains-steem-and-new-hive

It's post published by good friend of mine and I'm helping him to promote their curation trail.

02.04.2020 08:47
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As it turns out, I haven't quite left steem just yet. I'm still posting occasionally here just to see how it goes.

02.05.2020 05:56
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@dj123 Can you access your hive wallet yet?

25.03.2020 09:23
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Go cheer to your new Führer J. Sun who meanwhile controles something around 100-110Million STEEM, bought in a private deal from N. Scott.. You stay on STEEM, you'll never be free and you know it. Whatever, life is too short, I don't care.

21.03.2020 19:45
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You reap what you harvest.

Enjoy your centralized chain.

21.03.2020 20:04
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How exactly do we appeal?

21.03.2020 22:53
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22.03.2020 12:16
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> I thought about this for a while and there's no way around the fact that this list must be addressed. Sooner rather than later..... Apologies it took so long to notice, it has been a very hectic few days and week. ![sssss.png]() > # **^ who owns these accounts @sirvotesalot @ngc @z8teyb289qav9z @innerhive that were flooding comment sections from around 5 hours to 0 hours ETA for the HIVE snapshot of the STEEM blockchain to be taken?**

Upvoted by @aagabriel for having similarities to the #informationwar tag, posts like this anyone can add the tag #informationwar so we can more easily find and upvote them! (by @aagabriel)

  • Our purpose is to encourage posts discussing Information War, Propaganda, Disinformation, and Liberty. We are a peaceful and non-violent movement that sees information as being held back by corrupt forces in the private sector and government. Our Mission.
  • Discord, website, youtube channel links here.

Ways you can help the @informationwar!

22.03.2020 14:28
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> I thought about this for a while and there's no way around the fact that this list must be addressed. Sooner rather than later..... Apologies it took so long to notice, it has been a very hectic few days and week.

Upvoted by @aagabriel for having similarities to the #informationwar tag, posts like this anyone can add the tag #informationwar so we can more easily find and upvote them! (by @aagabriel)

  • Our purpose is to encourage posts discussing Information War, Propaganda, Disinformation, and Liberty. We are a peaceful and non-violent movement that sees information as being held back by corrupt forces in the private sector and government. Our Mission.
  • Discord, website, youtube channel links here.

Ways you can help the @informationwar!

22.03.2020 14:39
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i was amazed to see my name in the list.
i set @justyy as proxy a few months ago.
After that, I didn't manage that.
I'm innocent.
What else can I do now?
Thanks.
......

22.03.2020 14:56
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THEY LITERALLY TOOK THE MOST DECENTRALIZED OPTION.

LET THE COMMUNITY DECIDE THE FATE OF THOSE WHO ATTACKED THE VALUES OF DECENTRALIZATION

22.03.2020 16:57
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the community didnt decide anything. The witnesses did. the community didn't vote for the exclusion of accounts.

29.03.2020 22:12
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The excluded account can make an appeal to the community on #Hive

02.04.2020 12:42
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22.03.2020 18:06
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lol well as an investor, I can't be more pleased with how things turned out, I manage to sell 1/2 my Steem for 8000 Satoshis, and remaining 1/2 I got free Hive from Bittrex which I can freely trade now. Just waiting for Hive to get bid up by fomo investors before selling my stake on bittrex for even greater profits....to much ego an too little thinking = opportunity.

Justinsun and witnesses have full control now. If you want you guys can do whatever you want, here are some extreme examples:

a) make 1 day powerdown for ONLY the exclusion list and of course justinsun's friends like binance.

b) Freeze all Hive benefactors, the old witness, dolphines, orcas, and whales who are now doing 100% powerdown OR freeze their transfer in a hardfork that say > 5,000 SP, so they can sell and dump Steem until it goes down 90% value from 2600 Satoshi to like 260 Sats to pushing existing Steem users.

c) Hell... you can just mute all the big Hive accounts on Steem with a hardfork...

Basically the possibilities are endless.

BUT

Unfortunately, you don't have much time. The big powerdown starts coming down in 3 days time....then Steem will crash unless they can't sell. Good luck talking to Justin to get his support to take action now.

23.03.2020 01:48
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Justin sun is a cancer to this space. We just need to kick it out and work on projects

23.03.2020 16:32
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I I don't like any type of hegemony where money or a platform is concerned. The curators and main authors of steem pretty much ran it how they wanted and rarely cared to bring the best the platform had to offer to new users. Seems like as long as a stranger isn't the oppressor were all good? Decentralization is decentralization. it isnt a sales pitch. its a lifestyle.

24.03.2020 01:09
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I think a few things are getting mashed up here. I believe there big is a difference between having another opinion and controlling the ecosystem in which the opinion is expressed...

24.03.2020 08:30
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So some people were penalized for voting?

24.03.2020 20:26
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How do you sign into Hive with your Steem keys?

25.03.2020 00:20
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Quieres hacer algo productivo para ti/por ti en esta cuanentena?, Listo a que te presento anda a este link: shrinkme.io/DDw9I9Yl

27.03.2020 04:53
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HIVE

27.03.2020 09:44
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I see my name is on the list of people voting for 2 x sockpuppets or gave a proxy to somebody who voted for them. According to me I did not give any proxies. I know I voted for goodguy24 by mistake and changed immediately when I was made aware. I also changed all my witness votes to the top real steem witnesses as soon as the trouble started in order to help get them to the top. I also started powering down immediately.

Please let me know of the details why I am on the list!!

28.03.2020 16:58
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How to join hive AirDrop?

30.03.2020 00:30
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HIVE Could Face a Massive Class Action Lawsuit for Intellectual Property Theft

law.jpg

A group of rogue members of the Steem blockchain community have unilaterally copied the intellectual property of millions of content creators without even the slightest decency to even attempt to seek their consent...

31.03.2020 01:40
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If Steemit and/or Hive are censoring what doesn't suit them, I'm not agree with any website because of being better than Steemit or better than Hive. Personally, I don't want to keep good/evil with any one. This competence is ridiculous & inmature to me.
I don't know why the %&@~=! are Hive fighting against Steemit & viceversa.
They dont seem decentralized websites ¡They seem political parties!

31.03.2020 14:36
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Man fuck this shit, Im the anti-community guy, that mf always against everybody, well thats me, idk just fuck yall, like fo real. Yall better love how Justin an CZ are playing this Blockchain shit like a monopoly, those are the ones who are going to get rich, nobody wants decentralization we just wnat money just admit it

01.04.2020 08:00
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That's horrible.

01.04.2020 16:48
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hi hive

02.04.2020 10:37
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What hostile to property rights bullshit? It is an airdrop. The hive community decides who they want to airdrop tokens to. They aren't taking away your tokens.

03.04.2020 06:59
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imagine being retarded.

04.04.2020 16:47
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Now Steem looks like a frozen Account machine. For me it was the right desicion to drive for Hive. This "new" persons with a stake and power i never knowed from @ned s talking like: "there is no ninja-mined stake" is a try to get on new way´s and i get my work with it. My work here on the chain is why i leave. I would know other people have more soul in this blockchain than a scammer like justin and his follower. His tron is a joke and scam, like so many other "blockchains" (Lohol) in the new Crypto Ecosystem. Where i am able to mine Tron? Now i "mine" Hive as a witness in the future.

Have a good time on the same you called the fork.

06.04.2020 05:08
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If you don't decentralize the chain enough then bad actors will attempt to take advantage.

08.04.2020 07:24
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I care very little, but every step you take. Show more. You only talk about decentralization. Because you have to talk about something with which you will defend yourself from your actions.

A decentralized chain would never have absolutely excluded anyone. Bitcoin has never excluded anyone or anything.

Continue your project, in which each step you take and presume to take.

You show more.

That you are not much more than the same of what you accuse the new majority owner of Steemit.

Congratulations, for your terrible contradictions.

08.04.2020 12:03
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can someone tell me how you can withdraw from hive? have tried every exchange your registered on and just get transaction broadcast error.

10.04.2020 16:16
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