Dear Justin Sun – My open letter to you!


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OLA STEEM PEEPS!

This is a "call to action" post

Have you ever attended a live sports event at a stadium? There is something very unique about an experience like that – and it is all in the energy which is universally driven and shared among the individuals gathered there - The Mexican wave, the cheerleaders, the passionate chants that push the players to go that extra mile… it is a one of a kind experience! The same can be said for many live musical concerts. There is a POWER in those spaces that is absolutely undeniable. It fills every facet of your being! – You revel in it from one second to the next and the adrenalin pumps wildly through your veins as you get completely consumed in the present moment of sheer excitement, elation and passion which often lingers for days after... There is nothing else like it!!!

I have always been a huge advocate for the power behind this kind of collective energy and anyone around here who knows me well enough, will testify to this. I may not know the technical intricacies of our blockchain to the degree that plenty others do (and many pretend to), but what I do know is that I come to this space and table with my own unique skill set and tool belt which is equally important – just as everyone else’s individual contributions are… the genuine one’s specifically.

… That is what I would like to address in this post, and is also the reason behind the above “analogy” given.

When our Steem blockchain was lassoed and choked by Justin Sun – the passionate voices of Steem put their loud speakers on very quickly – myself included. We all gathered the troops and our army was nothing short of incredible! The dedication, love, passion and enthusiasm literally came from every possible angle! The players played, the cheerleaders cheered, the community discussed, debated and applauded the determined action and despite the circumstance, the sheer collective ENERGY was inconceivable! In many respects, I think everyone was quite blown away by the double edged sword that simultaneously re-ignited a once very tightly unified community, affording all of us some much needed perspective.

However, what we anticipated would be a battle – appears to have turned into a war. One which has gone on for a lot longer than most of us thought it would - and what is concerning about this is the fact that the genuine cheerleaders for this space seem to have gone very quiet. I too, took a little reprieve from the situation, because when you are THAT passionate about something, but limited in what you can actually do to change the circumstance… it can really take it’s toll on you emotionally. I pretty much took a week “off” and opted for silent observation instead… allowing time for a little reflection and recharge – because that too is important. Having taken some time today, I very quickly discovered that Steem is pretty quiet about it all... twitter is pretty quiet about it all... it is ALL VERY QUIET!!!! and that is NOT good!!!!

It was the post I published last night and the comments received on it that actually prompted the decision to put my fncking “hula” skirt back on, pick up the damn pom poms and do what I can to try and break the silence that has now become louder than our initial Steem storm.

Ripples can turn into waves VERY quickly with enough momentum – so, with the same spirit in mind that myself and my Power House Creatives Community held when we launched the My Steem Story initiative – I am going to attempt to create some positive Steem waves again so we can kick this stale mate out the FNCKING DOOR and take back what is rightfully ours.

The future of Steem lies in OUR hands – let’s hold on to it VERY tightly, ignite that mother bear instinct and once again show what we are made of! There is no time for “tired” in situations like this… but that is precisely what Justin thinks we are right now…"TIRED!" - in words read a little earlier today on discord – “he is beginning to wear us down”… let’s prove him wrong and rise from the dust!

Without any more waffle from me… let me kick this shit off the ground!

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NB!!!!!


As the one kicking this initiative off - I have omitted the "justin tags" from my title... because I don't exactly want to invite him into our strategic space... but PLEASE can everyone else go about it as per the instruction below.

Ok, here goes! - My letter

(you can find instruction for creating yours down below)
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Dear Justin Sun


You are a business man – we get it! I said from the start that you would look at this from a black and white investment perspective – and you have, but you have also taken it a “few” steps further Justin, and it is those steps that I simply cannot respect!

We may have plenty of internal politics here on our blockchain, but I think we have made it acutely clear to you now – that those details aside, we stand united as a community and we ALL want what is best for Steem.

Surely, you have already come to the realisation that this entire thing has gone too far and even if you suddenly changed your tune – you now stand in a space that is completely occupied by people that will NEVER trust or accept you! YOU CHOSE to burn that bridge. Perhaps we were a little more than you bargained for…haha… oh, who am I kidding… we have ROCKED YOUR FNCKING WORLD Justin!

When this whole thing started you had an opportunity to “make good” with the STORM that is the Steem community… but alas, you chose place deaf ears on the voices that count! That little portal, the gateway of acceptance is now shut and iron cladded! You may have money and influence buddy – “Linda linda”, but we have numbers!! - which embody not only money and influence – but an endless supply of passion too…!!!! We are like Jack Russell Terriers – you can throw us against a wall repeatedly, but we will bounce back EVERY.SINGLE.TIME!!! – because we have the one thing that you LACK! – A LOVE for this space that goes BEYOND the fncking WALLET! Let me afford you a little lesson in life right here…. No matter WHAT outcome this issue has…. You have ALREADY LOST! Your reputation will FOREVER be a piece of BURNT TOAST and you will carry that with you wherever you may roam!

If you knew absolutely ANYTHING about the people of this amazing space, (which you don't) you would know that I am an AVID music lover…. There is a song my mother used to play on her LP’s…. take a listen Justin…

and mark my words - justice THIS STRONG will prevail! Our webs are woven more intricately than the finest of wallets your pocket will EVER hold!

...sincerely, @jaynie.

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HOW TO JOIN IN:


GENERAL INSTRUCTION:


1. Create a post titled: Dear Justin Sun – (@justinsuntron / @justinsunsteemit) - My (@YOUR.USER.NAME.HERE) open letter to you! PLEASE COPY AND PASTE THIS TITLE AND THEN ENTER YOUR OWN DETAILS

2. Publish your post to the Power House Creatives Community WHETHER YOU ARE A MEMBER OF OUR COMMUNITY OR NOT - so we can EASILY support it!

3. Use the tags: SteemHostileTakeover, DearJustinSun, Steemimpact - and then whichever additional ones you want.

3. ONLY make use of the cover image provided in this post.

4. Please copy and paste these "GENERAL INSTRUCTIONS" into your post.

5. Tag 5 people to join in on the initiative.

7. Share your post to twitter (if you are on twitter)

8. Share your twitter link and Steem post link in the comments of @jaynie’s “Dear Justin Sun” post.

FOR THE SAKE OF THE MOMENTUM WE NEED...



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*Until next time...
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Comments 117


Damn girl ! On it !

14.03.2020 18:59
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MWAH!!!! Love you!!!
!tip

14.03.2020 19:27
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No kidding, this actually reminded me how the whole of hogwarts, students and teachers, combined to defeat a much larger force in Voldemort! The one thing voldemort lacked was love.

14.03.2020 19:21
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ha!!!! Love it! !tip

14.03.2020 20:49
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Resteemed

14.03.2020 19:44
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Thank you love. Hope all your planning goes well today xxx

15.03.2020 10:25
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Sometimes I wonder if it's Justin that's wearing us down... :0D

14.03.2020 19:57
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I hear you! and there are hopefully MANY lessons we will ALL take away from this, but for now -in my opinions... let's at least attempt to rally the last round.... we got this far....

14.03.2020 20:47
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I probably wouldn't have stayed on Steem if it wasn't for you @jaynie.
Thank you, you are wonderful!

14.03.2020 20:02
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Well, firstly WOW! and secondly.... I am ever glad you did! x

14.03.2020 20:50
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Awesome initiative!

14.03.2020 20:20
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xxx thank you!

14.03.2020 20:50
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I would feel more comfortable with encouraging our witnesses to find common ground with Sun then build on that. Up until now these negotiation have been shamefully childish.

Its time we had a top twenty line up that makes decisions that increase our user base (better for everyone) rather than voting for their own enrichment.

14.03.2020 20:36
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We can change all of that after this debacle is over. For now, that "top 20" is all we have really....

14.03.2020 20:48
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I feel a possible opportunity. The old guard only want to go back to what we had, making the rules they have been told will keep them in their position.

There are still accounts that do not vote for many home grown witnesses and for good reason. Their concerns of the return of past abuse needs to be addressed. The witnesses need to address the preexisting problem of centralization. If they do that they will have the support of the rest

14.03.2020 21:56
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Lol you are so lost and confused but thats fine, it's not my problem that you think the community top witnesses are "centralized" and not home grown, organic, community support.

15.03.2020 02:30
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lol
Hey I have not seen you around for a little while. Have you been on a break

15.03.2020 02:44
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I don't make acquaintance of douchebags on alt accounts, in case you were confused I responded to your asinine idiocy not to extend any kind of gesture of hello or acknowledgement but to express my disdain for you as a person.

15.03.2020 03:12
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You are confusing me with someone else.

And yea we have spoken once before, i was the guy who asked you the question about julian assange and you surprised me mildly with your reply.

17.03.2020 10:55
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Yes! I want to see commitments to not support freezing user funds which caused all of this. So Justin was wanting to make a Steem coin on Tron blockchain. Nobody had to swap if they didn't want to! But now everyone loses.

14.03.2020 21:21
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you appear to have a very one dimensional view on all of this.

14.03.2020 21:37
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I'd say anyone, who after two weeks of Justin Sun, STILL wants to listen to more of Justin Sun's bullshit, must be a Justin Sun steemit adherent, and not a steemian.

14.03.2020 22:13
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I hear you talking about "coins" all the time... are you in any form thinking about the "coummunity" stuf? ... ummm I guess not at all.

15.03.2020 17:49
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After two weeks of Sun going back on every thing he's ever said to the steem community? You've got to be kidding. Justin Sun is completely untrustworthy, and has demonstrated that trying to compromise with him means you will give everything up, or just spin your wheels. I think it's time for a split from the bastard.

14.03.2020 22:10
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I see it very differently. After listening to and reading our responses ,I feel let down by the actions of our witnesses.

14.03.2020 22:28
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Of course you do...

14.03.2020 23:37
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The one that I do not feel let us down is yabapmatt.
The rest behaved like a bunch of school boys on a rugby trip

16.03.2020 20:24
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It shouldn't matter how "untrustworthy" any account holder is deemed.

The rules should never be changed with the express purpose of targeting any specific account(s).

With this precedent, should we start freezing the accounts of "abusive" "spammer" accounts like those with negative rep and marked with 3+ blacklists? Why not? Haven't they also been branded as "untrustworthy"?

16.03.2020 20:37
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Let me clear up my position on using the word "untrustworthy" by considering the context in which I used it.

Concerning steem account holders, the only account that I've said is untrustworthy, is Justin Sun's. Why do I say he's untrustworthy? It's because I've heard him talk like he wants to do this and that, he claims to not want to control governance over the blockchain and he wants to increase steem value.

Then, soon after he says such things, he goes right back on the attack. Now he's trying to destroy the Dapps, removing delegations from the developers so he can continue to battle us.

You need to understand that I and MOST steemians now want nothing to do with Mr. Sun. He can now bathe in his stupidity for failing to exercise the most basic principles of honesty and forthrightness, rather than childish attacks. We now have a path that doesn't include him or TRON.

All I can tell you is that if you think Justin is such a great person, you can certainly move to his TRON community and shitcoin, if you aren't already there, which I suspect you are since a small number of TRONians are like the only people saying positive things about Justin at this point in this situation.

He blew it.

16.03.2020 22:08
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The rules should never be changed with the express purpose of targeting any specific account(s).

Do you agree or disagree with this statement?

Attempting to dodge the question of PRINCIPLES by feebly rushing-to-disqualify my sincere questions, clumsily painting me as "a friend of thine enemy" is nothing but a naked ad hominem attack.

The rules should never be changed with the express purpose of targeting any specific account(s).

Do you agree or disagree with this statement?

Do you stand by your PRINCIPLES or do you just change the rules because someone made contradictory statements?

With this precedent, should we start freezing the accounts of "abusive" "spammer" accounts like those with negative rep and marked with 3+ blacklists? Why not? Haven't they also been branded as "untrustworthy"?

Isn't it "the community's" responsibility to FREEZE all accounts of "evil" and or "undesirable" and or "untrustworthy" individuals?

Isn't it "the community's" responsibility to FREEZE all accounts of people who insist on COHERENT PRINCIPLES (because only an evil person would insist on such a thing)?

17.03.2020 11:53
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I'm going to explain this once more and that's all.

In my post, the title of which is "Dear Justin Sun - My Open Letter To You," it is obvious that I was writing about Justin Sun. The title clearly makes him the target of the post, since it is a letter addressed to him.

As one of my criticisms of Mr. Sun, I expressed my opinion that Mr. Sun is untrustworthy.

You have lazer-focused on that and are trying to make it into something other than me simply expressing my opinion that Justin Sun is untrustworthy.

To ME he is untrustworthy, or do you purport to instruct ME on what I should and should not think, believe and/or say?

I don't go for censorship.

Yes, spammers are untrustworthy, and their mindset reminds me very much of what I perceive Mr. Sun's mindset to be. You see, that's MY prerogative. No one tells me what I can say and what I can't, or at the least, they won't be listened to.

If you started an "open-letter to scammers" posting drive, and asked people to write a post as part of your effort to stop scammers, it's very likely I would participate along with other Steemians, so stop trying to shame me by implying I don't always do the right thing. I AM a trustworthy person, as anyone who knows me personally would confirm to you.

As far as a fair community is concerned, in a fair community, the majority rules. The majority of Steemians, In My Opinion, feel the same as I do - Justin Sun is untrustworthy, scammers are untrustworthy and I have no idea what the hell you're talking about with the coherent principles; sarcasm, I guess?

Justin Sun came in as an outsider, immediately pissed everyone in the community off, and now he's in a bind with his purchase. If he was an honest person, I would have been in his corner from the start and would still be be in his corner now. He isn't so I'm NOT.

You seem overtly motivated to equate a logical statement, that Justin Sun is untrustworthy, and project that he is a poor victim of the mean Steemians. Yeah, mean Steemians who have had their fill of his lying and deceit. Justin Sun fucked this up, and he has ONLY himself to blame. I'll never be part of his empire. I'm going HIVE and HIVE only.

17.03.2020 21:01
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To ME he is untrustworthy, or do you purport to instruct ME on what I should and should not think, believe and/or say?

Are you kidding me? I NEVER suggested The Sun was anything but "untrustworthy". We agree on this.

I AM a trustworthy person,

I'm sure that's true.

...in a fair community, the majority rules.

I'd say, in a fair community, the rights of every individual are protected.

In a MOB, the majority rules.

Majority rule is never fair, it's simply NATURAL LAW.

...scammers are untrustworthy and I have no idea what the hell you're talking about with the coherent principles...

SHOULDN'T ALL "UNTRUSTWORTHY" PEOPLE BE TREATED EXACTLY THE SAME?

18.03.2020 13:32
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No, they shouldn't.

Here's why. Untrustworthy people run the gamut of bad behaviors.

A traitor is untrustworthy; (is also perhaps the MOST untrustworthy, and intends harm.)

A person who tells those little white lies is untrustworthy; (but while technically a liar, intends no harm.)

A traitor should hang for the crime of treason.
With your logic, so should the little white liar.

18.03.2020 16:03
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Once again, I agree with you (generally, but perhaps not specifically).

How do you determine if someone is, what you call, "a traitor"?

Is it perhaps simply based on the amount of stake they control?

Is it possible, according to your criteria, for a newb account with say, 100 steem-power to qualify as "a traitor"?

18.03.2020 17:15
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The example of treason (traitors) vs. little white lies was just to illustrate that there are varying levels of wrongdoing acted out by people who are "untrustworthy."

A traitor is a person who has been found guilty of the crime of treason. This is the type of treason that has the death penalty in America.

One who betrays a friend is also a traitor. But this type of traitor doesn't hang unless they do it themselves.

I guess we could consider the regular actions of people screwing over other people they don't even know, so they can get off, as traitors.

But this has nothing to do with my saying that Justin is untrustworthy. The example was to show that your statement that every untrustworthy person should be treated the same isn't right. The contrast between the traitor and white liar shows there IS a difference and not everyone who is simply "untrustworthy" deserves the same punishment.

18.03.2020 17:45
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The example was to show that your statement that every untrustworthy person should be treated the same isn't right.

It wasn't a statement (declaration or assertion).

It was simply a question.

I understand that you believe that some "crimes" deserve more punishment than other "crimes".

I'm just trying to figure out what specific "crime" you believe deserves to have their steem wallet account frozen.

For example if a small account holder said the exact same things and threatened the exact same actions and even did or attempted to do the exact same things as Justin Sun, do you believe their steem wallet account deserves to be frozen?

What if the account holder was a red-fish, or a whale?

Is it the specific words and actions that makes Justin Sun a "heinous" "criminal", or is it simply their incredibly large stake that makes Justin Sun a "heinous" "criminal"?

I'm just saying, it seems like a lot of powerful "community leaders" would probably be more than happy to start freezing accounts of "dangerous" individuals.

Do you personally believe that would be "inappropriate"?

Or do you think freezing steem wallets might be acceptable, but should be carefully reviewed on a case-by-case basis (just like the current blacklists)?

18.03.2020 18:36
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The only people that I know of whose accounts are being held hostage out of all of this, are the people who have their steem on the exchanges which are colluding with Justin Sun, using the money of regular steemians and giving it to Justin to attack our witnesses. For this alone, I think the leaders of those exchanges AND Justin, should be arrested and charged with embezzlement at the least.

Those are the only people whose accounts have actually been frozen, and they are still being robbed.

That's it for me. You just want to defend Justin. He is in the wrong, and this is the last I'm going to say on the matter. Good day to you.

18.03.2020 19:39
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You just want to defend Justin.

Nothing could be further from the truth.

I've agreed with you from the very beginning that Justin Sun is untrustworthy.

18.03.2020 20:33
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The only people that I know of whose accounts are being held hostage out of all of this,

Report on accounts being censored on HIVE,

https://goldvoice.club/steem/@andrepol/sorry-to-see-steemchiller-glory7-rakkasan84-wonsama-fenrir78-and-many-others-get-shafted-hive-171744

And,

// Accounts excluded [FROM HIVE AIRDROP] who voted a minimum of two sockpuppets or proxied someone who voted a minimum of two and who didn't unvote before the hive announcement with more than 1k sp

So I guess it's less of a "democracy" and more of a VOTE FOR WHO YOU'RE TOLD, OR SUFFER MINE WROTH!!

26.03.2020 19:09
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And I predicted this a month ago,

I call it the "SUPER-WHALE PROBLEM".

Let's just say, hypothetically, that the Chinese Censorship Brigade decided they wanted to create an account (or buy an existing account) with (a relatively small) 2 million steem-power and start obliterating any accounts they didn't like (anything not written in Chinese).

Now imagine they managed to get their account up to (82) rep, and then power-stomped your blog (@tarazkp) into (-11) rep so ALL of your posts were automatically hidden behind some sort of vague warning message (strongly suggesting you're an unscrupulous person).

Would you be, you know, "totally ok with that", since "there are plenty of interfaces that will show it regardless" and nobody "deserves" to make a few steem-pennies off their blog if a whale decides to ambush you?

Who would you complain to? Or would you just go somewhere else?

https://goldvoice.club/steem/@logiczombie/q5k28z#@logiczombie/q5lggd

26.03.2020 19:14
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up voted and re steemed great post

14.03.2020 20:42
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Appreciate the suppoert, thank you!

14.03.2020 20:51
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Everyword and everyline is truly inspiring ....let's make it all together for a brighter tomorrow

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14.03.2020 21:15
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Yes!!! !tip

14.03.2020 21:26
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If attitudes like this continue Steem will continue losing trust. Sounds like you care more about winning a war to freeze user's funds then moving forward in a mature manner. Please let's get over this! Justin has the highest stake in Steem and is incentivized to make Steem better but this war is holding everyone back.

14.03.2020 21:18
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A. You don't know me, so don't assume to.

B. Google the term Naive.

14.03.2020 21:25
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Mature?... I think you’re not mature enough just to see there’s no a “pacific” way to defend our community...

14.03.2020 23:01
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👏🏼 I love this initiative: well done! 👍🏼

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14.03.2020 21:52
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Thank you @amico :)

15.03.2020 10:25
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Highly rEsteemed!

going underground...

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14.03.2020 22:36
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I’m with you @jaynie we should not allow this nerd sitting comfortably on his shit...
ASAP I’m doing mines.
🤗🤗

14.03.2020 23:02
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Damn straight lol!

15.03.2020 10:24
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A great letter! No airs or graces there lol ;)

15.03.2020 10:26
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I've reached that point. :)

It takes me a while, but eventually it's gonna come out if it keeps up!

15.03.2020 16:45
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You're a very naughty girl! Very good initiative. Justin doesn't know who he's pissed off! 💪

14.03.2020 23:25
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hahaha ;)

15.03.2020 10:26
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Where are all the crypto whales that believe in decentralisation and freedom. I'm sure throwing a couple of bitcoin into steem and voting for the decentralised community wouldn't be any great hardship.

I guess divide and conquer always seems to win the day

14.03.2020 23:48
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Nothing for nothing... lol

15.03.2020 10:27
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Yes it's getting silent... thank you for your initiative!

14.03.2020 23:58
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way too silent...

15.03.2020 10:27
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So, now we see why it has been silent... they worked on a new chain https://steempeak.com/steem/@blocktrades/why-i-won-t-be-compromising-with-justin-sun

16.03.2020 22:37
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Resteemed @jaynie

15.03.2020 00:39
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Much appreciated, thank you!

15.03.2020 10:27
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I re-stee...um... reBLOGGED this, so I could come back and reREAD it.
My initial perusal showed an impossibly long list of tags. I used the search function just now, and found that (thankfully) I am not one of them.
However, I've already been tagged by @free-reign.
I have been keeping two Steempeak tabs open, one for me, and one to keep an eye on the Witnesses.
I guess I am just an imbecile, because I cannot fathom how our numbers keep changing. Every time I get a dribble of Steem, I power it up, which I am told further empowers those witnesses for whom I have voted, and yet the juggling act keeps on juggling.
It seems to me that there is a LOT more going on behind the scenes that I, and perhaps everyone outside the "whale/witness" community are aware of.

What is it you think that all of our steemian voices can do now that hasn't already been done? I don't say give up, but we SHOUTED, and we STOMPED our feet and we VOTED our witnesses back in, and that was all that we had/have the POWER to do.
I will create my chainmail post, and I will tag some folks, but I DETEST chainmail (one reason I stopped using FB Messenger almost completely)
I applaud your initiative @jaynie.
btw, when all this started, I joined the TRON Discord server, just so I could (I figured) spy on them.
It seems they dislike Juice Tin as much as we do.

15.03.2020 01:05
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LOL @ "Juice Tin" :D

I think you are right in terms of what is potentially happening behind the scenes, but the way I see it... there are always more people to reach, more Steem to power up and more individuals that have not voted on witnesses. Staying quiet does not help us reach anybody.

15.03.2020 10:30
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I'm glad you weren't offended by my comments @jaynie.
I got that name from a fanciful tale written my @meesterboom, which I posted to the thread in PHC (since it wasn't mine, as far as I know he isn't in PHC and it was over 9 days old, I didn't think I would get in trouble) he made a 'fairytale' out of this travesty of a hostile takeover, if you haven't read it, I highly recommend it. 😁
It is also reblogged on my page.

15.03.2020 11:56
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Oops I messed and copy pasted more than just the instructions. Edited the post with MY OWN letter to Justin, sorry.

15.03.2020 02:50
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awesome thank you!

15.03.2020 10:30
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Thanks Jerry :)

15.03.2020 10:30
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You are welcome, I hope it helps

15.03.2020 11:57
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Awesome, thanks!

15.03.2020 10:31
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Oh man! I spent all that time writing a post (following the instructions given) and even had to learn HOW to post to a community just to discover that I can't post it to the community because I don't belong to the discord channel! WHY is it so important to join discord? I hate having to move off THIS platform. I'm really choked right now. I don't wish to be muted, so I guess I don't post my letter to Justin Sun until your own rules change. Seriously... you should have mentioned the stipulation as part of the posted rules so people like me don't waste their time.

15.03.2020 07:15
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Hi @happyme,

Please go ahead and publish your post to the PHC community (if you still wish to). This is a community initiative (same as the "My Steem Story" one) and in such cases everyone is free to post to the community feed.

... I will amend that in my instruction too.

Apologies for the confusion.

15.03.2020 08:06
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Thank-you. However, I still don't understand why it is so important to belong to discord. Shouldn't we be attempting to get more conversations going right here on Steem?

15.03.2020 09:36
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This is not the case with all communities... just ours, as we are technically a "closed" community. Applicants are assessed before being allowed in. The reason for this is that we pride ourselves on quality content and true Steem dedication. We are a very proactive community and those that do join us on discord, make a commitment to get stuck in... so whilst we "gather" there - ALL the action does in fact take place here... much like this initiative and many others that we have been behind.

Discord is simply a space which allows us to convene in a "live" manner, as there is nothing like that here.

Hope that clears it up a little.

15.03.2020 10:34
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Thanks for the explanation.

I can understand having a "closed" community of dedicated people, however, since I'm not completely familiar with Discord, I'm not able to comprehend the difference between chatting here or on Discord. In both cases, whatever is typed is instantly transmitted for the others to read and respond. Does Discord have voice chat? I'm confused about what "live" means. The few times I have used Discord, I found no difference between chatting here or there. We still have our various time differences and often must wait for the other person to get back on-line to respond.

I didn't download Discord and have been using the links provided by others to access and engage through the Discord service. Perhaps by not downloading software and simply using the on-line version, I'm restricted in what I can do?

15.03.2020 17:35
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Good initiative and post.

Not sure if Justin Sun will ever read any of this as he seems busy in his own little world.. But it is certainly worth a shot and glad to see you mobilizing the troops in your own way. <3

15.03.2020 07:27
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Oh, agreed! He may see them floating around but I doubt he would so much as open even one of them to read... he is far too self absorbed lol...

My intention was geared more at getting people to "feel something" again... get upset or whatever so they can dog their heels in again and take action in other ways too.

Things are just way too quiet now... only a handful of people are even tweeting about the situation and that means people are giving up which is never a good sign.

Raising their hackles a bit to get the charge flowing will hopefully change that... and hey, even though Justin will unlikely read these... PLENTY of other people will and that's good enough for me lol.

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15.03.2020 08:43
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Dear @jaynie , for some reason I was muted in your community. I would like to know if I'm still muted or not. Because I liked the initiative and I want to participate in it. I don't know why I was muted, while I just participated in one initiative about my steem story and didn't do anything bad. Maybe that was a mistake from one of your team. Please let me know if I can subscribe to your community again and assure me that I will not be muted. I'm also fighting the takeover in steem and you can take a look at my posts and tweets to make sure about that. I also would like to participate in this initiative if you don't mind.

15.03.2020 09:59
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Hi @clixmoney,

Your posts were previously muted on our community feed because you are not a PHC member. If you would like more clarity on that, you can take a look at the community description and rules on our community home page - however, in instances like this - ie. this being a community driven initiative... you are more than welcome to post to our community feed.

Hope that clears it up :)

15.03.2020 10:37
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No problem, and thank you :)

15.03.2020 10:39
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I'm happy to contribute my little bit.
I love the original idea behind decentralization and distribution of wealth. I would love to see that original idea blossom. It takes a certain type of people to make that happen; perhaps your group has that type of people. It is unfortunate that every time someone comes up with a great idea, there are always a few who will attempt to abuse it for their own gain and don't care if they destroy it in the process.

15.03.2020 17:45
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Love the morale-boosting energy of this post. Let me see if I can come up with something like this too (again after a while :)

15.03.2020 10:07
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Objetive achieved then haha! Thank you!

15.03.2020 10:39
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"Air Your Views", this is a good way to say it the way you see it as members who sit waiting in anticipation on news about the future.

Well done for keeping everyone aware about feelings on invasion of space.

15.03.2020 10:17
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Thanks Joan :)

15.03.2020 10:39
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Voted and Reateemed to help raise participation 👍

15.03.2020 14:12
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15.03.2020 15:48
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15.03.2020 17:59
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Beautiful work @jaynie 🙏

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16.03.2020 00:04
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@jaynie I have tried so very hard throughout this debacle to remain impartial, and it has been truly very difficult because every side has a legitimate argument and view. Because of that I have avoided the biggest debates on the whole situation, but here I think you truly speak for "the community" and it is a voice that needs to be heard and and respected. Because Steem is not a single voice, or even a few - it is a collective of us all - and that is a power that no one person can control.

https://steempeak.com/hive-114105/@c0ff33a/dear-justin-sun-justinsuntron-justinsunsteemit-my-c0ff33a-open-letter-to-you

https://twitter.com/c0ff33a/status/1239378593257578502

16.03.2020 02:31
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Here we go. Blog post. Twitter.

16.03.2020 08:20
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Well said, some good thoughts after a month of doing the tango are starting to emerge from Members.

My Post
Twitter

16.03.2020 11:12
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Good morning @jaynie, thanks for all you do for this community, here's my letter...Good luck to all!!

https://goldvoice.club/steem/@farm-mom/dear-justin-sun-justinsuntron-justinsunsteemit-my-farm-mom-open-letter-to-you

16.03.2020 14:28
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Hi Jayne, I have posted my open letter to Justin Sun. I really like your initiative, I doubt he will read my letter but it may serve to help inspire other people to keep pushing. Here is a link to my Tweet.


Edit
Retweeted, I forgot the tags.

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