Issues I had with The Rise of Skywalker **SPOILERS**


So I finally got to the theater to see the last installment in the saga yesterday. It was a mere 8 days after the local premiere and the theater was damn near empty. I'm gonna give my thoughts and hopefully encourage some discussion.

There will definitely be spoilers in here so if you haven't seen it and want to see it, turn back now

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First off, I want to say that it was a pretty decent film. However, it was not at all legendary but to be honest I really didn't expect it to be after the way the other 2 films have been. I would say that they had a very big job to do after the reception The Last Jedi received and I feel as though they did a good job of stepping away from the social justice and instead focused on the story. This was a very welcome reverting in my opinion.

Let's get to some points

Bad Physics, again

I get it, it is Star Wars so physics doesn't really apply. However, I went to go see the film with a guy who is literally a physics instructor and a major fantasy / sci-fi nerd and I could hear him groaning during multiple points in the film.

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I am referring mainly to the "ground assault" on the top of a star destroyer lead by Fin and the new girl they just met whose name i don't recall. Now, i get that they are not fully in outer space but at the altitude they are at gravity seems to not affect the ships themselves, but definitely does affect anyone standing on top of it. Even if there was some scientific reason why the ships don't fall, but people will due to some technology that we are not introduced to, it would be extremely cold up there and there would be no breathable atmosphere.

Maybe I am being a bit too picky since if the films followed physics all the space battles would be soundless (even the explosions) and dogfighting maneuvers would be all but impossible since there is no friction.

Moving on

Palpatine was behind the whole thing?

I'm curious if this was the idea all along or if this was a last-minute re-write when the determined that unceremoniously ousting Snoke was a bad and unpopular idea.

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Kylo Ren turning to the good side was as predictable as one of your uncles getting too drunk at the Christmas gathering and with Snoke gone, we needed a baddie to focus on. It was kind of too late to introduce a completely new enemy, so Palpatine gets re-introduced to the mix.

Don't get me wrong, I loved the visuals and thought it was shot really well, but the entire surviving the being thrown down the electric chute by Vader in Return of the Jedi and then surviving the detonation and crashing of the Death Star... it just gets a little redonkulous to believe that this dude is still around pulling the strings for the Sith.

Which brings me to my next point

Exegol... sigh...

So this planet that nobody knows the location of is the planet where the Sith have been plotting their revenge for less than one generation. In that time they are capable of manufacturing an armada the likes of which the galaxy has never seen before including star destroyers with planet-destroying capabilities on each one (I love how that weapon becomes increasingly portable as time goes by.)

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Again, i loved the ominous visuals - those were really top-drawer, but you expect us to believe that they built all of this and no one knew about it? I guess that entire sequence in The Last Jedi where the weapon manufacturers were selling to both sides didn't apply here. The Sith are just extremely resourceful and somehow managed to construct all of these on site, completely undetected... ok, fine. It's stupid but fine!

The force changes again

I would imagine that the force can evolve over time but we need to keep in mind that this trilogy is talking place not terribly long after Return of the Jedi. I was upset when Luke was able to transport his hologram to Crait for a battle with Kylo Ren that was pretty wild until we realized he wasn't actually there and it killed him to use so much force power to make that happen.

However, now Rey and Kylo Ren are able to transport physical items from place-to-place using the force? I don't like how they change the rules regarding the force as time goes by. Oh and now Rey can force heal people too.

I suppose Finn has use of the force now as well. Not a great command of it but now using the force is just part of anyone who wants it I guess. Did I miss something here - why does Finn use the force now? urgh!

Dark Rey? Who TF is this?

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I would have preferred if this was an additional character introduced at the last minute who just happens to hang around the destroyed Death Star all the time but no, it was just a hallucination that can physically attack Rey for a short while.

Which brings me to my last (for now) gripe about the latest film.

Too many "teleport" moments of Kylo Ren

Am I the only person who is a bit frustrated about how easily Kylo Ren is capable of being just wherever the hell he feels like it whenever the hell he feels like it? I get that he and Rey are connected in the force but he seems to very selectively use this power. There are times he has no idea where Rey is and the next he can instantly transport to wherever she happens to be at the time even though getting where she was (such as when she painstakingly climbs to the crashed and partially-submerged Death Star.)

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Don't get me wrong, it was a fantastic battle and once they "took it outside" the scary huge waves crashing all around them only added to the ambiance. I'm not arguing the merits of the battle itself, just the fact that Kylo Ren just seems to not be terribly restricted by travel time-tables and just magically appears wherever he wants to be. Maybe he figured out how to force-teleport. I dunno.



If I took the time to think about it, I could probably come up with many, many more examples of inconsistencies that made me a bit upset about this movie.

This movie was always going to grind my gears but I still enjoyed it. There is really no way that they were going to be able to please me and other Star Wars lifetime fans with this wrapping up of the entire thing (for now, you know Disney isn't gonna just let this $4 billion investment go away.)

I think it is worth seeing and was better than I expected. It just seems like a pretty terrible script to be honest and they did the best they could with it.

Overall the movie is entertaining but that doesn't mean that I have to like every aspect of it.


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28.12.2019 05:41
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Another Star Wars movie and I'm sure it's going to be a great sci-fi movie. I miss the part of Princess Leah and the cute many Ewoks, add with R2 D2, and the role of Natalie Portman for she's very pretty as well. She's a beauty and brains and let me give you some infos about this pretty actress, she's a Psychology graduate from Harvard and she has become a famous actress today and I guess you agree guys. She must be a perfect role model for young generation because Natalie managed to have a degree and have a career in the entertainment as well. And has live life with flying colors too. And she is a mother already presently.

28.12.2019 07:04
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JJ did the best he could. The movie is a joke, dont get me wrong, but he couldnt do better considering he had to deal with the flop that came before.
He basically did 2 movies in 1. Everything that was supposed to happen in the second movie happened in the third.

Palpi out of nowhere on the screen crawl at the start. Is that really the way you set up the big baddie of the story? By putting him in some text:

Oh guess whos back.

Its nonsense. Glad the movies are done.

28.12.2019 11:58
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i hadn't thought about it from that perspective but i think you are right. Did the 2nd one add anything to the story at all? I don't even remember what happened except it made me mad and Luke was a waste of time.

28.12.2019 12:27
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Nothing really happened. Nothing that was of any consequence to the story. Luke died. Thats it. Some space ships chased through space.

Because nothing happened JJ had to set it all up in the third and conclude it all in the third.

28.12.2019 12:36
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i didn't want to see the spoilers, just wondering if you liked this one more than the last 2? better? worse? as bad as the reviews let on?

28.12.2019 13:41
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i thought this one was ok and it was about as good as i expected it to be. It was better than The Last Jedi but i feel not as good as The Force Awakens. If you are a fan you really should see it in a theater just like any other SW film.

29.12.2019 02:55
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ive been having a bit of a marathon with the others recently 🤣✌️

29.12.2019 10:08
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I haven't been keeping up to date with all the follow up films as I don't like the idea of having films to explain where the original characters came from. Just money spinners.

28.12.2019 16:28
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I saw it on Christmas Eve and I was a bit on the fence about a lot of pieces of it. I will say I enjoyed it and I appreciate how they wrapped everything up, but it just felt like there was a lot more to the story that we needed to just assume or accept. I personally think that the movie could have been split into three shorter movies and it would have been much more enjoyable.

More backstory on Exogal, the yellow lightsaber, the deserter storm troopers, etc. It just felt like a lot of ideas and concepts were thrown at you and you were just supposed to accept them. Not having watched the animated series, maybe I needed to for some of these things to make more sense.

Personally, I don't think any of the other movies were ever going to capture the magic of the original trilogy. It was a specific moment in time that brought us those movies and trying to revisit or expand upon it expecting it to be as good as the original was possibly a bit foolish.

I can also appreciate a nod to the past and some homage, but I feel like it was a bit overdone in all of the last three movies. Also like you, the new force powers were a bit interesting. You are telling me the Jedi council at the height of their power didn't know of these "force powers"? I could probably go on all day discussing this, but I still have one episode of The Witcher left to watch and I am waiting to read your opinion of it :)

30.12.2019 13:06
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nice insight pal, i agree with pretty much everything you wrote here especially about capturing the magic of the originals simply was never going to happen. Lightning can't strike twice and those films, given the technology we had access to at the time, were truly monumental. Now, with mountains of CGI making any film with a budget visually amazing, it just isn't as special anymore.

I have only seen 1 ep of Witcher so maybe I should get on that.

03.01.2020 03:32
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