How to post in a Steemit Community - for example Project.hope


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Introduction

If you left Steemit not too long ago and you juct came back, you will notice that so much has changed. From the curation rewards sharing formular to more talk about SMT's, lots of progress has been made. One striking feature of the NewSteem is the concept of communities. Before now, communities run accounts just like individual accounts on Steemit. But since the introduction of communities - which is still in testing stages - people of like mind can now gather together and discuss something of interest in a more organized community environment.

I have been quite a regular user of Steemit since I signed up 2 years ago. Since recently, I have heard talks about communities, but have not really shown interest in how the new communities work until @crypto.piotr directed me to the @project.hope community. Even at that, he gave me a link which I followed since I support @project.hope. Yet, if I want to make a post, I still use the pencil Icon which is still visible when I open this link - https://beta.steemit.com/trending/hive-175254 - which he sent to me. I have been so at home with clicking the pencil icon to make a post. But whenever I finish publishing, I found that in the tags I use, I cannot see anything to show that I have posted in the community. I never bothered until my last post when I decided to check the page well. I noticed I have been making a mistake and I decided to use the "New Post" button found inside the page. Boom!!! I was able to make a post inside the @project.hope community.

I decided to create awareness of this since i felt that the community feature has not been given enough publicity. So in this post, for old users that are ignorant and for new users, I want to demonstrate how you can make a post in the community you support. Before then, let me say that a community is a collection of friends with shared interests and passion. So you can find and support as many communities as you wish on this steemit platform. So here is how to make a post in a community.
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How to make a post in a community - @project.hope

  1. Log on to https://beta.steemit.com/communities
  2. You will see a list of all the communities on the page. Some are also listed on the left-hand side of the page. Click on any community - for example Project Hope - to open it.
  3. On the right-hand side of the page, click on "NEW POST"
  4. Write your posts as normal - the title, body, tags, etc and publish.

Congratulations. You have posted inside the community.
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Other things about a community.

There are many other things that make the community feature really nice. Apart from the fact that it brings like minds together, you can also join a community by clicking the subscribe button when you open this link - https://beta.steemit.com/communities. In that way you have joined the community. When you click your profile image under a community, you will also see notifications of activity in the community. This will keep you up to date with community events. You can also create and manage your own community if you wish.
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Call to action

There are many communities out there to join. But if you love reading or writing about Steem, Technology, AI, economy, business, cybersecurity and marketing, then you are welcome to join @project.hope. You will not only find interesting articles to read. You will see an opportunity to post on such topics and most important, you will meet amazing friends that will support your work and help you grow.
To join @project.hope as a community, click this link: https://beta.steemit.com/trending/hive-175254
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Conclusion

I love the community feature as it will help to make Steemit as a whole stronger. When there are strong independent users of steemit that share similar interests and passion, it will boost user engagement as new users will somehow feel a sense of belonging once they arrive. I just feel that more awareness needs to be made about communities on Steemit and believe that would be effort in the right direction.


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"If you left Steemit not too long ago and you juct came back, you will notice that so much has changed."

Indeed it has! Steemit has turned into nothing more than a cesspool of fraud and corruption:

https://goldvoice.club/steem/@starworld/five-of-steemit-s-biggest-scumbags-the-reef-quarantine-buildawhale-block-power-bullionstackers

Unfortunately because of a few scumbags like the following members, Steemit's days as a viable forum are quickly coming to an end, because it has essentially turned into nothing more than a cesspool of fraud and corruption, controlled by childish members, porn lovers, peadophiles, and other such low-life garbage.

@the-reef
@quarantine
@buildawhale
@blockcreate
@block-power
@bullionstackers

and others.

The Facts: If any of the above members do not like one of more of your posts, comments or replies for any reason, they will not only down-vote that post or comment, but will then go back and down-vote many, if not all of your previous posts and comments (plus any you post in the future), thus reducing your reputation rating to near nothing.

A scumbag is a scumbag, but the real problem lies with the idiots who run and control Steemit. Only a bunch of total morons would set up a voting system as it now is designed. The main problem is that a higher reputation member can always down-vote a lower-reputation member, which will have a significant impact on the lower-reputation member's rating. The reverse however does not hold. A lower-reputation member can indeed down-vote a higher-reputation member, but unlike the reverse, the lower-reputation member's down-vote has no impact on the reputation of the high-reputation member. It's like it never happened.

In any event, whoever devised such a system, unfortunately has more than a few marbles missing. But quite frankly, who cares? I am now in the process of powering down my steem (10 weeks to go) so that I can exit this cesspool as so many thousands have done before me. So if the Steemit's management really wanted to create a cesspool of such scumbags, a real haven for porn lovers and peadophiles, congratulations! They accomplished that! Steemit will not survive much longer! Of that fact, I am 100% certain!

To all the scumbags here on Steemit: Go ahead, and bring on the down-votes, and perhaps it may help you feel good for a while, but in the long run, it will not fill your otherwise pathetic empty lives.

To all other Steemit Members: I'm sure you have come to realize some of these things, as well as the fact that steem payouts are nowhere remotely close to what they are claimed to be. Only those at the very top of the pyramid get the bulk of the payouts, while the rest of us (the vast majority of us), get virtually nothing.

Meanwhile, the best thing you can do to help the Steemit platform, and give it a chance of survival, and if you have a higher-reputation, is to down-vote the above members so if not to get them off of Steemit, at least take away their abusive power.

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26.01.2020 21:06
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Wow! I had been complaining about the automatic negative votes that some accounts seem to do, but I hadn't thought about half of the negative things you mentioned.

27.01.2020 22:42
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Thank you for introducing project.hope HIVE and being part of our team.

Resteemed and upvoted @focusnow :)

27.01.2020 07:38
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@tipu curate

27.01.2020 07:39
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27.01.2020 07:40
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Dear @focusnow

Thank you for using our project as an example. Indeed interesting read and solid introduction to STEEM communities (hives).

There are obviously few problems I see with current beta communities and I wonder if some of those issues will be solved. I also wonder what other users are feeling about communities. I hope you don't mind that I will promote your post little bit.

So far I see few small issues with communities.
a) all authors can post within your community and you cannot 'whitelist' those that are allowed - so it may be very easy to 'destroy' any community by bombarding it with tons of spam.
The only thing that one need to do is to create tons of new accounts and use them to post some spam and rubbish. Every day using some new account.

b) even more important: users need to chose only one community in which they can post their publication.
it simply means, that established communities will be doing fine but new ones will have it very hard to attract users to post within their community

c) current HIVE tags look awful. I understand that Hive ID need to be remembered on blockchain, but in tags - instead of HIVE ID we could see "HIVE NAME" - it would look much neater.
Seeing that you posted in HIVE-175254 doesn't tell me anything.

I wonder what's other users experience so far.

ps. You've mentioned SMTs. Any idea when STINC want to release them to public? Also did you hear anything about new version of steem-engine? Apparently it's already available in beta version.

Resteemed and upvoted already :)
Yours, Piotr

27.01.2020 08:15
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Sure @crypto.piotr, i was thinking how amazing communities would be if everything was done perfectly. I have also noted the issues you raised. Let me comment on 2 of them.

a. There must be a way to moderate community activity, such as having a system to check who is allowed or not to post. Unfortunately we dont have it. Like you said, that will make spamming the community possible. Unless the community will unite to fight the infiltrators. That although wont be a smart solution.

c. The naming convention is awful too. Exactly like using IP addresses which are numbers for domain names. Doesnt make sense.

About SMT's, there are no new updates yet. I mentioned them because i have friends that left 7 months ago and am urging them to come back. So SMTs and other developments would sound foreign to them.

Have you thought about making proposals for the issues raised. Maybe we will get enough support to make the proposal successful.

Thanks Charles

27.01.2020 09:07
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Thank you for your prompt reply @focusnow :)

i have friends that left 7 months ago and am urging them to come back.

what content did they produce? can you share their usernames? Perhaps they would be interested in becoming part of our small project.hope community...

Just an idea :)

27.01.2020 12:52
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Hello dear friend @focusnow.

When I met the hives of beta.steemit I felt that they had created something unnecessary. I didn't find the meaning.

That is, the communities are ourselves, who organize and share efforts and interests. If we want a space for our community then we can create a steem account and that's it. Just as @project.hope was working.

Then they launch the hives.

In my opinion it was a desperate attempt to give a novelty to steemit. When things aren´t done enough planning then many details remain unpolished.

Don't you think that hives are a version of the tribes?
So why didn't they offer improvements to the tribes instead of creating hives?

Well, they are already a reality, so we must adapt and move forward.

This post seems excellent to put in context the new users and also those who had moved away and are now back.

ps: thanks for using as an example to @project.hope.

Your friend, Juan.

27.01.2020 18:15
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In a way I think that the hives are not a version of the tribes, I think they are rather a bit inferior, because the tribes allowed to share post with the use of the different labels, but the hives force that each post can only be shared In a particular hive, not being visible from the others, this could be explained as an attempt to better segment the publications addressed to each user group, but it does not convince me.

As it is a Beta, it's time to wait to see how it develops.

27.01.2020 23:19
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Interesting thoughts. Before I address some of them, I'll like to say a big thank to @focusnow for such a clarifying post on steem communities. I belong to the @ocd community and fount it cumbersome to post directly from the beta.steemit\ page. I remember not being able to submit a post on the community site but easily submitted it at the main site.
About the points you raise regarding communities, I'll respond individually.
a) There are pros and cons to "whitelisting". For example, who decides a post is worth being seen by community members? Personally, I'll prefer using steemit's downvoting mechanism to rid off spam.

b)This will be quite unfair. Most people have multiple interests and might choose to post about several aspects of their lives in several mediums. Do this is almost equivalent to saying because you have a facebook account, then you should not have a linkedIn account. See the problem?

c) I totally agree with you on this one! The challenge will be linking the blockchain ID with the names we come up with. Can be done but I hardly see the incentive.

Overall, great post by @focusnow and great discussion you've started here @crypto.piotr. I'm hoping we'll hear other opinions.

27.01.2020 11:41
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Thanks @aiplusfinance for stopping by. I noticed that some like me do not know how to post in the communities they belong. SO i made this post. On the issues raised:
a. Yes, i partly believe that since communities are united by passion and interest, it will be easy to deal with any spammers together. Then again, If there are community founders and moderators, and whitelisting is possible, then I believe the admin should be responsible for allowing or not allowing certain individuals to post.

b. Yes, definitely, we should be allowed to belong to several communities. We have more than one hobby or interest.

c. Using real names that represent the communities is the sensible thing to do.

27.01.2020 14:59
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It's me again @aiplusfinance

I've just realized that I never actually thanked you for your comment. Big thx.

ps.
I would need to ask you for little favour. Recently I've decided to join small contest called "Community of the week" and I desribed our project.hope hive/community. Would you mind helping me out and RESTEEM this post - just to get some extra exposure? Your valuable comment would be also appreciated.

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

04.03.2020 10:14
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I just created the "Atom Collector" community today.
Most of what is available is amazing. It is a real step forward for Steem but I also have the same concerns as you.
I think the fact that we all have the same concerns probably means that they will fix them fairly quickly.


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27.01.2020 11:43
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Thank you @crypto.piotr sir, I read the full context. Thanks to both you for sharing these information. As a newbie Steemit User I don't think much about HIVE's. But everyday I have researched about Steemit Blockchain to know more about this greatest community.

27.01.2020 11:46
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Thanks for coming around. Communities are really a big selling point for Steemit. So you need to look at them closely to see how you can benefit from them.

27.01.2020 15:51
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Hi again @insense

Can I ask you for little favour? I joined contest called "Community of the week" with project I manage and I would be grateful if you could RESTEEM it and help me get some exposure and drop some encouraging comment :)

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

04.03.2020 10:13
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You raised some interesting points. For now, the community feature seems to be in testing and is largely unregulated.
When I want to make a post in any community, I just use Steempeak and include the community hivetag in my post and my post shows in the community. This method isn't sustainable of course and like you pointed out, there's no whitelisting method.
Time will tell anyways

27.01.2020 11:54
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Thanks @belemo for dropping by. Yes i believe that by the time the community feature is very well fine-tuned, we will have all the nice features we need to make commumities work effectively

27.01.2020 17:23
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It's me again @belemo

I've just realized that I never actually thanked you for your comment. Big thx.

ps.
I would need to ask you for little favour. Recently I've decided to join small contest called "Community of the week" and I desribed our project.hope hive/community. Would you mind helping me out and RESTEEM this post - just to get some extra exposure? Your valuable comment would be also appreciated.

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

04.03.2020 10:13
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I'd like to address your a, b, c points directly.
a) when communities will launch (or shortly afterwards) there will be more types of communities available, including one where only members can post or one where only members can post or comment. This is important: There won't be a possibility to change the type of the community, at least not in the first iterations of Hive communities (meaning you can't switch between allowing guest posting and not allowing guest posting in your community, once you created your community and once you chose its type).
b) this is high on the list of priorities of roadscape to solve ('cross-posting'), but won't be available at launch
c) the hive id has a reason - so that there can't be two identical communities, even if they are called identically. On an interface that understands Hive communities, you won't see the hive id as a tag, you will see the name of the community. Check any community on the beta interface as opposed to the steemit.com or steempeak.com interfaces and you will see the difference. Once Hive communities will be supported on the main interfaces, that won't be an issue.

Steem-Engine "beta" is available here:
https://next.steem-engine.com

But they still need to work on it.

27.01.2020 12:24
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Sure, you raised interesting points.( a.) That would be nice to have communty founders decide the type of community, which will indicate the features that are possible in each.

B. Whitelisting will solve a lot of headache at sources as against using crowd action through downvoting to deal with spammers

27.01.2020 17:28
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About... whitelisting. Currently there isn't this possibility. But there is the possibility of blacklisting. Muting either one post or the author. This is of course not ideal, that's why most likely if one prefers whitelisted authors (or authors and commenters), they will wait for the respective type of community to be introduced, as I described above.

28.01.2020 07:39
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Thank you for that information, they are things that I did not know.

27.01.2020 23:23
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Your welcome! :)

28.01.2020 07:41
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It's me again @gadrian

I've just realized that I never actually thanked you for your comment. Big thx.

The hive id has a reason - so that there can't be two identical communities,

Luckily they already changed that.

ps.
I would need to ask you for little favour. Recently I've decided to join small contest called "Community of the week" and I desribed our project.hope hive/community. Would you mind helping me out and RESTEEM this post - just to get some extra exposure? Your valuable comment would be also appreciated.

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

04.03.2020 10:06
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Personally, I post to different communities. I do find it cumbersome to remember the hive ID for each of the ones I'm posting to. For now, I took note of the IDs and set up templates on Steempeak, which I use for most of my posts.

Hive tags could use more improvement. I see lots of different hive IDs and have no idea what those communities are. I'm only familiar with a few that I have posted to.

Spam filtering would also help a lot in improving community posts.

Hope the feedback helps @crypto.piotr

27.01.2020 12:41
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It's me again @iamraincrystal

I've just realized that I never actually thanked you for your comment. Big thx.

ps.
I would need to ask you for little favour. Recently I've decided to join small contest called "Community of the week" and I desribed our project.hope hive/community. Would you mind helping me out and RESTEEM this post - just to get some extra exposure? Your valuable comment would be also appreciated.

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

04.03.2020 10:03
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I share your sentiments except that I don't agree with point number one. The of RCs will make spam very difficult and expensive. I hope that you're right.

27.01.2020 13:25
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Yes friend, you made a point about RC. Have not thought about that possibility, but it could be a nice solution to spamming. But how about a determined spammer who has all the resources needed to create multiple accounts. Just like those with big SP accounts downvoting innocent authors at random?

27.01.2020 17:31
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But how about a determined spammer who has all the resources needed to create multiple accounts. Just like those with big SP accounts downvoting innocent authors at random?

There is what is known as cost-benefit analysis. Spammers are rational beings - when the marginal cost outweighs the marginal benefit to be derived, chances are that spammers will stay away. Why spam when it comes with a cost? We'll see.

27.01.2020 20:03
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Okay. That would be frankly a problem that would give us headaches.

27.01.2020 23:25
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Greetings.

I agree with you, I consider that they are still in adjustments and changes, so I guess they will remove that unattractive message from HIVE-XXXXX and leave the one from the corresponding community where it is published.

For the author, it shouldn't be a problem that he publishes from a certain community or platform for his post to be valued.

Similarly, for a community it should not be a reason to flag or ignore the post and not value it because it has been published from another platform or community, if its content is good.

27.01.2020 13:33
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It's me again @equipodelta

I've just realized that I never actually thanked you for your comment. Big thx.

ps.
I would need to ask you for little favour. Recently I've decided to join small contest called "Community of the week" and I desribed our project.hope hive/community. Would you mind helping me out and RESTEEM this post - just to get some extra exposure? Your valuable comment would be also appreciated.

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

04.03.2020 10:01
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I totally agree with you on these points. I can remember "naturalmedicine" as a community name, but there's no way I can remember a 5-6 digit number to use with them! I'm not sure why this started changing to begin with, but I haven't changed what I do. I use NAMES, not numbers!

The lack of whitelisting is definitely a threat, as is not being able to choose multiple communities (as I currently do) - has no one ever found their favorite community because someone used the tag? I have...

27.01.2020 14:27
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Thanks for your feed back, I really think that there is much left to be desired with regards to communities. I believe we can put together a proposal about these things and we can support the proposal. Maybe someone out there might listen to us.

27.01.2020 14:53
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It's me again @viking-venture

I've just realized that I never actually thanked you for your comment. Big thx.

ps.
I would need to ask you for little favour. Recently I've decided to join small contest called "Community of the week" and I desribed our project.hope hive/community. Would you mind helping me out and RESTEEM this post - just to get some extra exposure? Your valuable comment would be also appreciated.

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

04.03.2020 09:17
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I will be honest with You...  I don't grasp these "hives."  My aim is to share awareness to as many as possible of a better way We can operate Human society, and take every opportunity to provide the information to Others.  If "hives" can help in sharing awareness, I am all for it.

I am not out to make money at this, and if You examine My work in sharing awareness, You will grasp why.

27.01.2020 14:34
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Thanks for your selfless spirit. I believe communities would be a welcome feature on Steemit. We laready have various groups in place without a proper structure to organize them. So the Hives will make sense in the lon run

27.01.2020 20:42
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Well...  It's kinda poor, in My view to name them "Hive-xxxxxx" rather than, say, Politics-Hive, Knitting-Hive, Baseball-Hive, etc.  Just looking at "Hive-xxxxxx" gives zero data on what to expect in the hive.  Just saying.

28.01.2020 00:39
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Hi buddy

didn't see you posting in a while. hope you're okey there

04.03.2020 09:16
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It's me again @amaterasusolar

I've just realized that I never actually thanked you for your comment. Big thx.

ps.
I would need to ask you for little favour. Recently I've decided to join small contest called "Community of the week" and I desribed our project.hope hive/community. Would you mind helping me out and RESTEEM this post - just to get some extra exposure? Your valuable comment would be also appreciated.

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

04.03.2020 09:16
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Humbly, I am unclear what Your community is all about.  It seems focused on many good things...and a couple I work to eliminate.  I know that My efforts to remove the accounting for Our energy completely on Our planet is initially difficult to comprehend for Ones whose lives have been devoted to gaining accounting tokens (money), but when You look at the benefits for Humanity - all of Us able to live as richly as We choose with no need to spend the time pursuing tokens, but rather the things We love to do - the importance of My work becomes clear.

Perhaps if You can offer the advantages of Your community, I will help promote it.  [smile]

04.03.2020 16:57
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Good Morning. I am really quite confused and disoriented, I was out of steemit for a couple of months. Upon returning I found hive on the labels followed by a series of numbers that really tell me nothing. And this is a problem when it comes to finding and discriminating the issues and communities with which you want to interact.

I started using one and reading to understand the benefits of all this.

27.01.2020 16:09
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Sorry friend. You absence did not help it at all. Communities are associations of people with common interest. It started not too long ago on Steemit here. They are still testing it anyway to know if its a nice thing.

27.01.2020 20:28
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It's me again @isgledysduarte

I've just realized that I never actually thanked you for your comment. Big thx.

ps.
I would need to ask you for little favour. Recently I've decided to join small contest called "Community of the week" and I desribed our project.hope hive/community. Would you mind helping me out and RESTEEM this post - just to get some extra exposure? Your valuable comment would be also appreciated.

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

04.03.2020 09:15
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Thanks, @crypto.piotr, right now I know what hive mean. But, a number doesn´t say anything. I prefer names.

27.01.2020 17:31
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On a)
Different types of Communities are coming. I think there are 3 planned. The open Community which is what we have now, a community with whitelisted authors but where anyone can comment and a community where only the whitelisted authors can post or comment. Not sure when they're going to come out, but they are on the roadmap.

In the meantime, the Community Admin can mute posts and hide them from visibility so the sort of attack you mentioned could be stopped.

b) This one is an issue and I hope it gets resolved. I think the main thing is that the Communities are ranked by the payout of the posts in their Community, so what we would need is an option to "Resteem" into other Communities, but that could also pose it's own set of problems, mostly with spam control.

c) Yea, hope there is a better solution to this as well soon.

27.01.2020 17:32
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that of being able to share between different communities would seem like a very good idea.

27.01.2020 23:27
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Hello Piotr,

interesting article but tbh I will have to work through this to build up a basic understanding of all this.

At first glance and in short...

it seems to be much complexity with unclear benefits 🤷‍♂️

But like I said... I'll have to dig deeper. I'll do that somewhere down the road.

Cheers!
Lucky

27.01.2020 19:39
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Thanks for inviting me to the discussion. I attached my answer as a comment under the main article.

27.01.2020 19:39
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Hi again @bucipuci

Can I ask you for little favour? I joined contest called "Community of the week" with project I manage and I would be grateful if you could RESTEEM it and help me get some exposure and drop some encouraging comment :)

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

04.03.2020 09:15
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Thank you, @crypto.piotr for bringing out these points that have more than one confused, including me, you should definitely see a change in how to identify communities. For now my publications are about crypto but I have other interests that I would like to publish, but I need to understand more about the issue of HIVE.

Gracias, @crypto.piotr por sacar a relucir estos puntos que tienen confundidos a mas de uno, incluyéndome, definitivamente debe a ver un cambio en cuanto a la forma de identificar a las comunidades. Por ahora mis publicaciones son sobre cripto pero tengo otros intereses que me gustaría publicar, pero me falta entender mas sobre el asunto de las HIVE.

27.01.2020 21:23
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Thank you for dropping by @cageon360 and sharing your thoughts.

Appreciate it.
Piotr

29.01.2020 12:38
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It's me again @cageon360

I've just realized that I never actually thanked you for your comment. Big thx.

ps.
I would need to ask you for little favour. Recently I've decided to join small contest called "Community of the week" and I desribed our project.hope hive/community. Would you mind helping me out and RESTEEM this post - just to get some extra exposure? Your valuable comment would be also appreciated.

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

04.03.2020 09:15
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I like the idea of having "communities" to which you can join and post your blogs related to that topic ... not just a silly tag ... through which no one actually gives a ...

like with the music/art ... no one listens anymore not even 1 minute of a song, not to mention an album ... BUT ... they're listening the idiotic brainwashing radio inside their cars with non-senses :-)

Maybe if we would have the chance to "See" who's following our account in real time as a notificaion, the communities would have been better and healthy with the accepted people, or proper ones for that craftmenship that the group/community was created for ...

This would be cool ...

communities, not tags related to some groups which does not pay a coin of their time/upvote on your creations ...

anniway, maybe it is true as i've said ...

the hole world should become robots and forget about music/art and other organic and ancestral creative crafts that the Great Architect has given to us ...

Blessings

27.01.2020 22:08
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IF i've created my #lnbt token https://steem-engine.com/?p=market&t=LNBT i've done to support this blockchain not just "to sell something" to anyone ;-) @crypto.piotr

I think it was clear from the beginning, expecially through my giveaways/donations ... as i know ... i've sent more than 1000 #lnbt tokens to "some" charity accounts ... which is worthing even now 2.5 steem coins ...

I wish i could see more altruistic people arround and more wiser ... to ask "what's for my token" ... when i've posted the whitepaper with the mention that this will be improved with the time ...

Regards

PS: I know it's hard to follow every content in such a dense environment ... but we cannot invite people to be active inside everyone's blogs just by saying " i'm not selling you annything" ... when actually ... it's even deeper this concept ... actually ... who's asking this ... is draining the other one's TIME :-)

... then ... i think to myself ... "what a wonderful world" ... in which i can invest my money/energy to have the illusion of the old concept of trading in an organic way ... and to offer my #;nbt as donation/giveaways ... and people still are skeptic ... Nice ... thanks for supporting my Art/Music ... the demanding system will prevail ... everyone wants everything for free ... but in this NWO ... nothing will be free ... expecially the Art/Music ...

27.01.2020 22:21
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Hi, thanks for notifying me to review the post. Regarding what you comment:

The danger of spam is terribly true, after all there is no way to stop it, well, the use of downvote may help in that, but it is not an option that I find pleasant.

The other detail, about the fundamental difference between hives and tribes, the use of tags, makes me think that it is a problem that needs to be solved, after all, there are posts that could benefit from a greater diffusion if they were allowed to appear in the different communities that might have an interest in its content.

For now, the only way to have "user-friendly names" for hives is to directly use the Beta-Steemit fronted, but in other fronted they don't look that way, only HIVE and a sequence of numbers appear, that can To be annoying to users like me who prefer a different fronted.

27.01.2020 23:10
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Gracias amigo @crypto.piotr por tu sugerencia de leer esta publicación. Estoy relativamente nueva en esta plataforma, cada vez intentando aprender más. En verdad es un poco engorroso publicar con tantos números. La idea de esto, no la se. Pero así como el fastidio de aceptar votos negativos y que traten de manipularte para que los hagas a los demás. Así mismo, esto de los números, en colmenas, es también imposición. Los que están arriba organizando todo esto, tendrán sus motivos. Mientras tanto, los que estamos debajo, caminamos por este desorden. Los pequeños peces, quedamos como sombis, atados a lo que arriba se imponga. Gracias por llamar a que opine. Un saludo.

Thank you friend @ crypto.piotr for your suggestion to read this post. I am relatively new to this platform, each time trying to learn more. It is really a bit cumbersome to publish with so many numbers. The idea of ​​this, I don't know. But as well as the annoyance of accepting negative votes and trying to manipulate you to make them to others. Likewise, this of numbers, in hives, is also imposition. Those who are upstairs organizing all this will have their reasons. Meanwhile, those who are below, we walk through this disorder. The small fish, we remain as sombis, tied to what is imposed above. Thank you for calling me your opinion. Greetings.

27.01.2020 23:39
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Thank you @gertu for dropping by and sharing your view on discussed topic.

Cheers, Piotr

29.01.2020 12:20
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Thank you, @crypto.piotr for inviting me.

29.01.2020 21:22
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This things are true about the beta steemit community and i believe it shou be updated since it is said to be in beta and liable to changes.

28.01.2020 07:35
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Hey buddy, do you have any idea when the developers will solve these problems? Or do you know of a place where complaints can be sent?

A new version of steem-engine? That would be a good idea. That platform often freezes up and you have to wait a day for it to work. Using the chrome extension helps to improve the use of the platform. However, it is a solution only if you are going to use it on your personal computer.

28.01.2020 10:40
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the problem is you are viewing community posts on steemit.com not on the beta site. Until they come out of beta you need to view them over there before making assumptions about how they work.

all authors can post within your community and you cannot 'whitelist' those that are allowed - so it may be very easy to 'destroy' any community by bombarding it with tons of spam.

While you can't whitelist authors as yet, there is a mute feature to remove improperly posted posts from a community. I recently cleaned up Ramble community by doing so. The post remains on the posters blog but disappears from the community it doesn't belong in.

If you take a look and listen to the post I did after interviewing @roadscape on Curation Corner you'll learn there are two other types of communities coming down the road. The current version is Topical where anyone can post to a community. There will be another which allows restriction of posting and commenting to only those subscribed.

even more important: users need to chose only one community in which they can post their publication.

again if you look at posts on the beta site you will soon realize that when you put a post in a community that post will not show up on your blog. It shows up only in that community. Once communities come out of beta, unless a community prohibits it, you could actually post a relevant post in more than one community. It will not be as easy as adding a tag which is appropriate too many people already use tags that are not relevant.

Seeing that you posted in HIVE-175254 doesn't tell me anything.

When you look at posts on the beta site they resolve to the community name.

Bottom line is people need to STOP judging what they think communities are or aren't based on what they see on steemit.com ... it's like trying to describe water by examining trees.

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28.01.2020 15:01
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Hello.
I didn't initially know what "HIVE" was.
Is this a community tag?
When I uploaded the video, I left the 3speak community column blank.
In this case, the tag "HIVE-100421" was attached without permission.
I don't understand what community this tag represents or what tag it is.
Sorry for my poor English.

28.01.2020 20:59
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@crypto.piotr You've actually stated all what is in my mind as regards to hive communities. The most unpleasant part is the hive ID or hive tag.

29.01.2020 06:05
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You highlight some good points. In particular, I agree with the current HIVE tags. When I first posted thru SteemLeo, I noticed that my posts were tagged with a "Hive ... (number)." That was unclear and a bit confusing.

Nevertheless, the whole concept of these communities is a big step forward for Steemit. I hope it will lead to much further growth.

29.01.2020 06:17
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Posting into different communities may help further down the line, yet to be seen. The way it has been implemented with hive"-"xxxxxx is not attractive 'hive123456' without a dash may have been better, still makes this feel like a product code more than the product itself.

Working with this beta version at the moment, I find every time you comment or post, more often than not you have to log in again.

Not having control on who is accepted into a "Hive" needs to be considered.

Still in beta with a long way to go, best is to wait and see going forward what transpires thanks to @crypto.piotr and @focusnow attracting conversation.

29.01.2020 11:34
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this HIVE tags look seem very awful.
it is ID , is not name.
so everyone is not know what is it?

29.01.2020 12:15
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Well... Even for me it is confusing to use the hives, especially for not being able to know to which community it belongs in an easy way, there is not even a directory that tells you what is the community that belongs to each identification.


I have noticed that if you publish directly from the Steemit page, your post will not appear in the community list when you enter by beta.steemit, however, if you publish from any other linked page such as palnet, creativecoin, tribe, talentclub, etc... if it appears to you as published within the community.

Just remember to place the community as the first tag.

At the moment I find this a bit impractical...


29.01.2020 20:10
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It's me again @darkfemme

I just realized that I never actually thanked you for your comment. Big thx.

ps.
I would need to ask you for little favour. Recently I've decided to join small contest called "Community of the week" and I desribed our project.hope hive/community. Would you mind helping me out and RESTEEM this post - just to get some extra exposure? Your valuable comment would be also appreciated.

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

04.03.2020 09:06
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Hello Piotr,

very nice... I'm still behind regarding looking into the whole communities stuff a lot. What I don't understand in general is... where are the benefits of "taking a dedicated piece" of #steem for a certain group of people?

Cheers!
Lucky

30.01.2020 13:33
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Hi @crypto.piotr,

I am sorry for the late reply. I just learned of the memo you sent a while back. I like how communities look visually, and I like the ideas of organizing content in a way that focuses each user's experience based on their interests. I agree that the Hive-ID looks weird and non-descriptive, and that communities are open to the abuse steemit.com is. I do not know what can be done about that, all in all. I think any redesign of the layout to feature the content more promptly, and allow easier access to sub categories and subjects will enhance the experience of content creators and consumers.

08.02.2020 22:20
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It's me again @nidalo

I just realized that I never actually thanked you for your comment. Big thx.

ps.
I would need to ask you for little favour. Recently I've decided to join small contest called "Community of the week" and I desribed our project.hope hive/community. Would you mind helping me out and RESTEEM this post - just to get some extra exposure? Your valuable comment would be also appreciated.

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

03.03.2020 14:53
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Howdy,
I just saw your message now, sorry it took so long.
I COMPLETELY agree with C, the hive id vs the hive name.
We should be able to recognize them at a glance, but currently the names are meaningless...

11.02.2020 19:23
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It's me again @veryanprime

I just realized that I never actually thanked you for your comment. Big thx.

ps.
I would need to ask you for little favour. Recently I've decided to join small contest called "Community of the week" and I desribed our project.hope hive/community. Would you mind helping me out and RESTEEM this post - just to get some extra exposure? Your valuable comment would be also appreciated.

Link to my post: on steemit or on steempeak

Thanks :)
Yours, Piotr

03.03.2020 14:47
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Hol dear @focusnow, thanks for sharing this great read with us.

I really liked the way you presented the communities, besides that it is always a pleasure to read your very well prepared publications taking care of many details.

Congratulations friend, very good reading!

27.01.2020 12:29
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Thanks @fucho80. I love to make how-to articles and i want to use this to promote our lovely community. I will do more.

27.01.2020 17:45
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Hi @focusnow

Close my posts with this phrase,

"In constant evolution"

I define myself as I am evolving in everything I learn within Steemit.

I am very sincere I did not know about this option, https://beta.steemit.com/communities

I visited that link and I could see all the communities that are already interacting and growing.

Thanks for this publication friend, have a Resteem

27.01.2020 13:03
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Thanks @lanzjoseg. There are things that may look simple to others but unknown to many. I have been trying to figure out how to post in the @project.hope hive until i discovered how. Am happy the post helped you.

27.01.2020 17:43
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Hi dear @focusnow

Very interesting publication, I clarify several things I did not know.

From these communities will there be the option to schedule the posts or allow to have a draft to elaborate them ?.
There should be.

I will make my next post using this from the communities, I think it is a good way to support.

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27.01.2020 13:06
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Yes there should be a way to schedule posts. I will check to see if its possible.

27.01.2020 17:40
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I think that the publication options are the same as we have in the Steemit fronted, I hope that in the future they will add e-options...

27.01.2020 22:45
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Highly rEsteemed!

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27.01.2020 15:20
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My friend @crypto.piotr sounded the alarm for his network of dedicated steemians to feedback this post.

The groups and gathering of likeminded people is fantastic for STEEM. To land here and go search out popular tags you enjoy, network with people and plug yourself into the community is not as intuitive as it could be for sure.

I am not sold on the HIVE thing and random number as far as branding goes. For example, I am with @steemitbloggers aka #powerhousecreatives. In the past, I would simply put powerhousecreatives as a tag somewhere in the list and I preferred to have the subject matter first (eg: #beer) so that it was listed as the main tag. Then the family at PHC could still search it out and have it show in the list,

Now, adding a strange HIVE word, and not very descriptive number, and having to enter that as the first and predominant tag isn't the best. I will admit to not having dug too deep into the changes, leaving that to the technical people in my list, and trying to stay relatable to the new folks which are the future of the blockchain. That being said, I hope this is just a small step in the greater plan which will personify those hive numbers and make it so that even every moron on the planet finds it easy.

It is early on and I look forward to how this will shake out.

27.01.2020 15:25
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Thanks so much @zekepickleman for your response. Talking about the hive ID, it would be nice to use names. We are talking about mass adoption and even the not-so-tech-savvy guy out there should be able to understand how stuff works at a glance. The hive is work in progress and is subject to improvement.

27.01.2020 17:37
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As it is a Beta, I have the expectation that they allow using more "user-friendly" names, something like an internal DNS to avoid having to work with the sequence of numbers that identifies the hive. Touch wait and see what is decided at the end.

27.01.2020 22:48
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Thanks for your post; @focusnow I was absent about four months and I found a lot of things changed. Thanks for post this article, it clarified me a lot of things

27.01.2020 17:13
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Welcome back @mllg. Would mind telling me why you left. And hope you are here to stay now?

27.01.2020 17:32
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It was useful, thank you. I think I like Steem based communities more than dozens of SE-token based tribes. But I'm new in this.

27.01.2020 18:05
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Sure my friend @deathcross. I took my time to check your website and I found some interesting articles. But from what I read, I see you love investments. Big time and risky ones. But very calculated. I love that and like to thread that path too. I will add you up on discord if your dont mind.

27.01.2020 20:10
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Google translate from Czech

Allow me to respond to the invitation @crypto.piotr for discussion.
I already have some experience with communities (hives). As a normal user, I don't mind the hive ID. For me, this is just a brand that I can find on beta.steemit. Hives have their names, and if I write a post from a hive, I don't have to use this tag at all. It is set automatically to the first position.
If I write to a community from a different interface, HIVE-ID is first and foremost important to get the post where I need it and not "jump out" in another community.
The question of community moderation and governance is different. Let's not forget that it is still "only" the beta version and therefore some options are limited.

milkandtators

27.01.2020 19:38
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@bucipuci, you made really sensible observations. I always believe they will work on communities to make them better. Since this is just the testing stage, maybe they are still trying to see how each feature functions. Thanks a lot.

27.01.2020 20:25
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Thanks for the feedback :-)
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27.01.2020 20:41
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27.01.2020 20:41
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Hi @focusnow

@crypto.piotr has invited me to your post

Thank you for sharing your experiences with us about beta.steemit.com/communities.

I've been following this for a while, but I'm not praising the project yet. I have to wait to see what this brings and what opportunities this will make for good. I understand the meaning behind this with local communities, but for now my gut feeling this time is that I will wait to join some communities or create one myself.
I am afraid that such communities may seem somewhat closed and that many do not find their way into them. I have read all the comments here and I also see some things that should change as you now also ask questions.
Otherwise I would say that the way @ project.hope is run today is very good and works well

Normally, I'm the one who keeps testing new opportunities, though
this time I'm probably sitting on the fence waiting for what beta.steemit.com/communities. will be

28.01.2020 03:08
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Hello, @focusnow

Thanks for sharing this interesting post. The idea of having two ways to post makes it difficult to use hives. And the ID numbers don't help at all. I guess it presents these problems for being a beta version; hopefully, they will solve these problems.

However, having separate communities creates a greater identity with their users. And also more union between those who have affinity in the subject.

28.01.2020 10:27
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Communities are bricks of the Steemit and I suppose that @project.hope belongs to the most popular. It's great that communities can meet together at their place easily. Thank you @crypto.piotr for recommendation of this post.

29.01.2020 00:30
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