[STEEM] 소프트포크 0.22.8888이 적용되었습니다


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안녕하세요, 디온입니다. 금일(2020년 4월 4일) 한국시간 기준 19:00부로 소프트포크 0.22.8888 버전이 적용되었습니다. 해당 소프트포크 관련 공식 발표문은 아래의 링크를 참고해주시기 바랍니다.

소프트포크 0.22.888이 무엇이고 왜 시행이 되었는지에 궁금해하실 분들을 위해서 간략하게 요약 정리하여 드립니다.

1. 소프트포크 0.22.8888


이번 소프트포크 0.22.8888은 다음의 기준에 해당하는 일부 계정의 향후 트랜잭션을 제한하는 임시조치입니다.

  • 하드포크 시행 전후로 스팀 블록체인에서 0.23 버전을 운영하고 있었던 증인에게 10표 이상을 투표한 프록시 계정 위임자 및 직접 투표자 계정 중 200만 이상의 스팀파워를 보유하고 있던 계정
  • 하드포크 시행 전 0.23 버전을 운영하고 있으면서 상위 20위 내의 증인 자리를 점유하고 있었던 증인 계정
  • 위에서 언급한 계정과 직접적인 관련이 있는 부계정 등

이와 같은 기준에 따라 이번 0.22.8888 소프트포크로 인해 영향을 받는 계정은 다음과 같습니다.

  • freedom
  • pumpkin
  • blocktrades
  • gtg
  • good-karma
  • roelandp
  • steempress
  • darthknight

2. 일련의 사태 팩트 정리


  • 2020년 2월 14일 : 트론 재단의 Steemit Inc 인수 발표문의 애매모호한 표현으로 인하여 스팀 블록체인이 트론으로 마이그레이션 될지 모른다는 커뮤니티들의 우려의 목소리가 높아짐
  • 2020년 2월 23일 : 기존의 증인들이 자신들의 협상을 위한 용도로 소프트포크 0.22.2 를 단행하여 Steemit Inc 계정을 동결
  • 2020년 3월 2일 : 거래소 계정들의 도움으로 Steemit Inc에서 0.22.5 하드포크를 단행하고 투표권 행사를 통해 상위 20위권의 증인들을 자신들의 계정으로 변경. 거래소들은 곧바로 다시 보팅 취소 후 파워다운 시작.
  • 2020년 3월 2일~18일 : 증인, 커뮤니티 멤버, Steemit Inc, 투자자들 등 여러 이해관계자들이 여러 채널을 통해 의견 교환 및 토론을 진행함
  • 2020년 3월 11일 : 기존 증인들 그룹에서 타운홀 미팅 이후 곧바로 hive.blog 라는 도메인을 구입하고, 코드카피체인의 이름 브레인스토밍, 로고 디자인을 진행하는 등 토론과는 관계없이 새로운 체인 런칭을 작당 모의
  • 2020년 3월 18일 : 블록트레이드가 코드카피체인인 하이브를 런칭하겠다는 하드포크 소식 발표
  • 2020년 3월 20일 : 하이브 런칭을 준비하는 그룹에서 Steemit Inc뿐만 아니라, 자신들에게 몰표로 투표하지 않은 계정과 프록시 위임 계정들 350개 이상의 계정을 HIVE에어드랍 명단에서 제외하고 있는 작업이 발견됨. 우리나라 시간 기준으로 23시에 상위 증인들이 일제히 스팀 증인 노드를 중지하며 체인 스플릿 감행.
  • 2020년 3월 21일~현재 : 자신들이 기존에 보유하고 있는 스팀파워를 동원하여 (1) 커뮤니티 멤버들의 포스팅에 다운보팅, (2) 자신들의 포스팅에 댓글을 단 후 무한 셀봇 + SPS 펀드 빼먹기 등의 밀킹 활동 시작, (3) 여러 계정의 봇을 돌려 무차별 스팸 댓글 공격, (4) HIVE에어드랍을 받고 싶으면 프로포절을 통해 용서를 빌 것을 요구하는 등의 스팀 블록체인 공격 활동

3. 소프트포크 발표 전후의 상황 정리


소프트포크 시행 전 @softfork22888 계정에서 We Need Your Help to Protect Steem 포스팅을 통해 2020년 4월 4일에 소프트 포크가 예정이 되어 있음을 공개적으로 밝혔고, 해당 포스팅을 발견한 몇 개의 계정들이 재빠르게 움직이기 시작했습니다.

물론 해당 알림 포스팅에는 어떤 계정에 향후 action이 일시정지 될 것인가에 대해서는 구체적으로 안내되지 않았음에도 불구하고, 영향을 받을 것으로 스스로 예상하는 계정들의 움직임이 포착되었습니다.

(1) 블록트레이드

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  • 먼저 블록트레이드의 경우에는 파워다운으로 받게되는 리퀴드 토큰의 대리 출금 계정 설정 기능(withdraw vesting route)이라는 우회방법을 선택했습니다.

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  • withdraw vesting route라는 기능은 파워다운으로 받게되는 리퀴드 토큰이 본인이 아닌 다른 계정으로 전송되도록 자동 설정하는 우회 기능입니다.
  • 향후 블록트레이드가 파워다운을 통해 받게되는 스팀은 비트렉스 거래소 계정으로 들어가게 됩니다.
  • 본래 거래소 계정으로의 토큰 전송 시에는 거래소에서 제공하는 개인 식별용 메모가 포함되지 않는 경우 자산이 유실될 가능성이 있으나, 블록트레이드와 비트렉스 간에는 나름의 긴밀한 커넥션이 있었던 것으로 보입니다.

(2) 프리덤

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  • 프리덤 계정의 경우에는 별도의 우회출금 계정을 설정하지는 못했습니다.
  • 오히려 자신이 설정해놓은 프록시를 해제만 해버린 상황입니다.

(3) 다쓰나이트

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  • 다쓰나이트의 경우에는 블록트레이드와 동일하게 비트렉스를 우회출금 계정으로 설정하려고 했으나, 잘못하여 bittrix라고 오타를 냄으로써 휴면 계정으로 파워다운이 될 것으로 예상되며, 해당 수량은 자동적인 소각효과가 발생할 것으로 보입니다.

(4) 기타 계정들

  • 이 외의 기타 계정들은 이미 빼먹을 대로 다 빼먹은 상태라 실질적으로 보유 중인 스팀파워가 얼마되지 않습니다.
  • 그럼에도 불구하고 블록트레이드와 동일하게 비트렉스를 우회 계정으로 설정하였거나, 상거래를 위해 개발된 에스크로 계정 설정을 모두 마친 상태입니다.

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본래 소프트포크 0.22.888은 오전 11시에 증인들과 커뮤니티의 동의 및 참여를 위한 공지를 발표한 후 12시간 뒤인 2020년 4월 4일 23시에 적용하는 것을 목표로 하고 있었으나, 그 동안의 스팀 증인으로서의 오랜 경험과 노하우를 가지고 있는 하이브 증인들이 잘 알려지지 않았던 여러 구멍들을 탈출을 위한 꼼수로 사용하며 빠른 대응이 필요해졌습니다.

그래서 버전 0.22.8888 버전으로 19시를 목표로 한 신속한 대응이 시작되었고, 목표 시간 1분 전에 맞춰 메인 증인 20명 중 17명 이상의 동의가 극적으로 이뤄지며 적용이 완료되었습니다.

본 포스팅을 올리는 지금 현재 기준으로는 21위 까지의 모든 상위 증인이 0.22.8888 버전 업데이트를 완료하였습니다.

4. 하드포크라는 용어에서 오는 오해


코드카피체인 하이브에서는 계속해서 "하드포크"라는 용어를 사용하고 있습니다. 그러나 일반적으로 알려진 비트코인 / 비트코인캐시 / 비트코인골드 등의 하드포크와 스팀 / 하이브는 체인 스플릿은 다른 상황입니다.

비트코인과 비트코인캐시의 채굴자들은 하드포크 전후로 상대 체인에 어떤 악영향을 끼칠 수 없으나, 현재 하이브는 스팀 체인에 계속해서 다양한 루트로의 위해를 가하고 있는 상황입니다.

그 대표적인 사례가 (1) 스팸 댓글 테러, (2) 트래픽 공격, (3) 스팀 유저 포스팅 다운보팅, (4) 댓글 셀프봇을 통한 밀킹, (5) 인종 차별적 발언 (6) 자신들이 보유한 스팀을 시장에 팔아서 STEEM의 가격을 망쳐버리겠다는 협박 등입니다.

코드와 블록정보, 그 블록에 담긴 콘텐츠 모두를 카피하여 다른 블록체인 네트워크를 만든 뒤 토큰을 찍어내고 기존 토큰을 팔아버리는 불법적인 행위가 용인된다면 이런 먹튀와 개구리 점프 행위는 블록체인 생태계와 커뮤니티의 근본적인 신뢰성에 대한 굉장히 큰 위협이 될 수 있으며, 그 어떤 주체도 투자와 인수를 함부로 할 수 없을 겁니다.

자신들에게 투표한 사람들에게만 선별적으로 에어드랍을 해주고, 중재를 통해 본래 우리들이 살고 있던 마을을 지키려고 했던 이들을 배신자 취급하는 테러리스트들에게 끝까지 젠틀한 방식으로 응수할 생각은 추호도 없습니다.

증인으로서 마땅히 해야 할 일은 흙탕물에서 싸워야 한다면 기꺼이 흙탕물에서 피 터지게 싸우는 것이고, 만일 그것이 올바르지 못한 선택이나 행동이었다면 언제든 비난을 받는 것, 그리고 책임지고 물러나는 것이라는 것이 제 개인적인 생각이자 입장입니다.

현재 하이브쪽 증인들과 밀접한 관련을 가지고 있는 일부 인플루언서, 하이브쪽에서 왕성한 스팸 댓글 활동을 하고 있는 강성론자들, 편파적인 보도를 일삼고 있는 크립토 미디어를 통해 알려진 바와 달리 확실하게 해 둘 필요가 있는 것들이 있습니다.

(1) 스팀 커뮤니티 멤버들은 중앙화를 지향하지 않습니다.

(2) 스팀 커뮤니티 멤버들은 스팀 블록체인과 STEEM의 가치를 지키는 것을 최우선으로 합니다.

(3) 스팀 커뮤니티 멤버들은 구증인, 저스틴썬, Steemit Inc 등 특정 집단이나 주체가 블록체인을 장악하는 것을 원하지 않습니다.

(4) 스팀 블록체인이 일순간에 셧다운되는 위기에 처했던 상황까지 첨예하게 대립하는 구증인과 Steemit Inc를 중재하고 대화를 시도하려고 했던 주체 모두가 스팀 커뮤니티 멤버들입니다.

(5) 증인들의 존재 이유는 자신들의 포지션을 지키는 것이 아니라, 스팀 블록체인과 STEEM을 지키는 데에 있어야 합니다.

(6) 지금까지 어떤 하드포크도 임의로 326명만 에어드랍에서 배제한 임의적이고 중앙화된 의사결정을 따른 적은 없습니다.


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Thank you for proclaiming those statements. I would like to add that just because some of us didn't migrate to Hive and decided to stay here doesnt mean we support centralization of steem. We will continue to make progress on the chain that we all love into a better place for all users. If you agree with this post, please leave a comment so that readers understand there are users with alternative views than the HIVE witnesses.

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상세한 내용 요약정리 감사합니다
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이런 치사하고 더러운 댓글 공격을 계속할건가요?
부끄럽지도 않습니까?

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정리감사합니다.
스팀 커뮤니티 멤버들을 응원합니다.! 잘하셨습니다.

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수고 하셨습니다.

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수고하셨습니다~~

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정말 고생많으셨습니다. 응원합니다!

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명문입니다

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수고하셨습니다. 응원합니다.

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소프트포크 0.22.8888 이 어떤 내용인지 궁금했는데, 잘 설명해주셔서 감사합니다.

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증인들의 존재 이유는 자신들의 포지션을 지키는 것이 아니라, 스팀 블록체인과 STEEM을 지키는 데에 있어야 합니다.

멋지고 중요한 말씀입니다

잘 정리해 주셔서 감사합니다

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기존 증인 외 셀봇과 다운봇을 하는 계정을 블록처리할 순 없나요?
중앙화된 조치긴 해도 스팀 생태계가 어지럽혀져서 선의의 피해자가 다수 발생하게 되네요;;;

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정말 잘 써주셨네요. 감사합니다.

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수고많으셨어요~ 앞으로도 화이팅입니다! ^^

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깔끔한정리 감사합니다!

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07.04.2020 00:52
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깔끔한 정리 감사드립니다.

05.04.2020 00:46
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정리 좋네요 감사합니다

05.04.2020 01:02
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정리를 잘 해 주셔서 감사합니다. 생태계에 직접 참여하고 있지는 않지만 스티밋과 스팀에 관심많은 1인으로서, 또는 투자자로서 이번 소프트포크를 전폭적으로 지지합니다.

05.04.2020 01:19
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어떤 내용인지 궁금했었는데 정리 넘 감사드립니다.
모든 글이 너무 눈에 쏙 들어옵니다.
고생많이 하셨고 지지합니다^^
♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
good job

05.04.2020 01:26
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정리 항상 잘해주셔서 감사합니다

05.04.2020 02:14
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정리 감사합니다. 아휴 저 하이브댓글 빈공간은 뭔가요... 진짜 ... 하..

05.04.2020 02:32
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한 3~4개 저런 댓글다는 계정만 차단하세요.

05.04.2020 03:47
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지금까지 어떤 하드포크도 임의로 326명만 에어드랍에서 배제한 임의적이고 중앙화된 의사결정을 따른 적은 없습니다.

일목요연한 정리 감사합니다. :))

05.04.2020 02:55
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현재 스팀상황을 이해하는데 큰 도움이 되었습니다.

05.04.2020 06:11
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You wrote,

Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash miners can't have any adverse effects on their opponent's chains before or after hard forks.

The chain with the most mining capacity can easily destroy the smaller chains with 51% attacks from miners but most miners just prefer to milk that chain when they can sell what they mine for more bitcoin instead of destroying it's value.

05.04.2020 07:34
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스팀 커뮤니티 멤버들은 중앙화를 지향하지 않습니다

How does that matter? Nobody is saying that everyone on facebook is a sock-puppet of Mark Zuckerberg, What we're talking about is the foundation itself. It's users cannot pretend it is transparent and decentralized when convenient and the opposite be when things do go how the central planing would like.

05.04.2020 07:57
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(6) 지금까지 어떤 하드포크도 임의로 326명만 에어드랍에서 배제한 임의적이고 중앙화된 의사결정을 따른 적은 없습니다.

So far, no hard fork has followed random and centralized decision-making with only 326 randomly excluded from airdrops.

The crypto history is filled with chain deciding on how they want to customize their original token distribution.

Example: (Telos, capped EOS accounts to a maximum of 40,000 tokens at network launch)

https://medium.com/telos-foundation/telos-token-distribution-use-of-the-eos-genesis-snapshot-why-2d849a2b0055

There was nothing random about how Hive was distributed, it makes a lot of sense given the events;

  • teemit stake = always been non voting by social contract.
  • Tron buy Steemit
  • Justin Start voting with supposedly non-voting stake.
  • Witness try to top that stake from voting.
  • Take full control of the chain by ling to exchanges and locking and voting with unwilling customers fund.
  • Steem turn into a centralized joke for almost a month.
  • Hive, a new chain launched with a distribution replicating all Steem account except those who were supporting for more than 2 fake Steemit witnesses and had more than 1000 Steem.

Hive distribution rule was arbitrary but very siple and definiteely NO random.

Ps: I

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05.04.2020 10:46
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깔끔한 정리 감사합니다.
리스팀 해갑니다.ㅎ

05.04.2020 11:09
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I agree with the need to stop all the damage being done to users and the blockchain itself. Even agree on the need to support with big power the witnesses running a right version of the blockchain code. But I think a downvote organized initiative with the resources of steemit and the many witnesses could have been a solution of the spam and milking the reward pool. This action of a soft-fork is diffucult to not be interpreted as an "eye for an eye", and the chain of effects probably will never end.

Still my hope is for the end of all this conflict very soon as your community and many other users mistreated have been through too much, and as many users with not much stake but with great heart want to see better things happening with all these great technologies that we all share.

Much respect and best wishes for the endeavor!!

05.04.2020 11:43
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잘정리된 글입니다. 이것에 동의 합니다.

05.04.2020 12:48
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잘 정리해 주셔서 감사합니다^^
事実を丁寧に整理してくださり、よく理解できました。ありがとうございます。

05.04.2020 13:05
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Some influencers that are currently closely related to Hive's Witnesses, stiffs who are active on the spam side of Hive's side, and crypto media that are biased reporters, as known through crypto media, need to be made clear There is.

(1) Steam community members are not centralized.

You relied on the help of the steemit stake to vote out witnesses who were opposed to the fork. That stake was able to choose whether or not the change was implemented regardless of the wishes of the Steem community. That is centralization.

당신은 포크에 반대하는 증인들을 투표하기 위해 steemit 스테이크의 도움에 의존했습니다. 이 스테이크는 Steem 커뮤니티의 희망에 관계없이 변경이 구현되었는지 여부를 선택할 수있었습니다. 그것은 중앙 집중화입니다.

(2) The members of the Steam Community put the highest priority on protecting the value of the Steam blockchain and STEEM.

Your actions will likely get Steem delisted from other exchanges. It also will cause many people to leave Steem. Many began powering down soon after the announcement. This action is hurting Steem, not protecting it.

다른 거래소에서 Steem이 상장 폐지 될 수 있습니다. 또한 많은 사람들이 Steem을 떠나게됩니다. 발표 직후 많은 사람들이 전원을 끄기 시작했습니다. 이 조치는 Steem을 보호하지 않고 손상시킵니다.

(3) Steam community members do not want certain groups or entities, such as witnesses, Justin Sun and Steemit Inc, to take over the blockchain.

It has already happened. You, the witnesses, have just taken over the blockchain against the will of the people. You did this with the help of Justin Sun and Steemit. This is like saying "I don't want to rule over you, but I do rule over you and you must obey me!"

이미 일어났다. 목격자들은 사람들의 의지에 반하여 블록 체인을 인수했습니다. Justin Sun과 Steemit의 도움으로이 작업을 수행했습니다. "나는 너를 다스리고 싶지 않지만 너를 다스리고 나에게 순종해야한다"고 말하는 것과 같습니다.

(4) Steam community members are both witnesses who are sharply confronted with the situation where the Steam blockchain has been shut down in an instant, and the subjects who have tried to mediate and attempt to communicate with Steemit Inc.

The talks with Justin Sun were not productive because Justin wanted immediate power-down for only certain accounts. You say that you want to protect Steem. If that is true, you must certainly see how such a thing would threaten the blockchain. They were right to flat out disagree with that. I also want to point out that you lied a out the exchanges immediately powering down. They didn't power down for at least a week afterwards.

Justin은 특정 계정에 대해서만 즉각적인 전원 차단을 원했기 때문에 Justin Sun과의 대화는 생산적이지 않았습니다. 당신은 Steem을 보호하고 싶다고 말합니다. 그것이 사실이라면, 그러한 일이 어떻게 블록 체인을 위협 하는지를 반드시 알아야합니다. 그들은 그것에 동의하지 않는 것이 옳았습니다. 또한 거래소가 즉시 전원을 끄고 거짓말을했음을 지적하고 싶습니다. 이후 최소 일주일 동안 전원이 꺼지지 않았습니다.

(5) The reason for the existence of witnesses should not be to defend their position, but to defend the Steam Blockchain and STEEM.

Then how can you justify supporting actions that support the centralization of Steem? You bow down to a master that has stated that they want to destroy Steem. Justin himself has said that he wants to exit Steem as soon as possible. I can find it on the recording if you'd like. Why wouldn't you include him in the list to stop him from dumping Steem?

Steem의 중앙 집중화를 지원하는 지원 조치를 어떻게 정당화 할 수 있습니까? 당신은 그들이 Steem을 파괴하고 싶다고 말한 주인에게 절을합니다. 저스틴 자신은 가능한 한 빨리 Steem을 종료하고 싶다고 말했습니다. 원하는 경우 녹음에서 찾을 수 있습니다. Steem을 버리는 것을 막기 위해 왜 그를 목록에 포함시키지 않겠습니까?

(6) So far, no hard fork has followed random and centralized decision-making with only 326 randomly excluded from airdrops.

Why do you care a out the Hive airdrop so much? If you really care a out Steem, why do you want Hive so much? Why do you care about being excluded? Also, why did you support the centralization of the blockchain in the first place? Why do you still support the centralization of the blockchain. If you really want Steem to listen to the will of the community, you should demand that Justin and Steemit not participate in voting.

왜 하이브 에어 드랍을 그렇게 많이 관리합니까? 정말로 Steem을 걱정한다면 왜 Hive를 그렇게 많이 원하십니까? 왜 배제에 관심이 있습니까? 또한 왜 블록 체인의 중앙 집중화를 지원 했습니까? 왜 여전히 블록 체인의 중앙 집중화를 지원합니까? Steem이 커뮤니티의 의지에 귀를 기울이고 싶다면 Justin과 Steemit이 투표에 참여하지 말 것을 요구해야합니다.

05.04.2020 13:30
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Hive를 지원하는 댓글을 조금 보았는데 - 어찌보면 당연한 본능 일수도 있지만 - 본인들이 보고 싶은 것만 보는 것 같아요..격앙되어 있다는 느낌도 크구요.
저스틴선이 지분을 인수한 뒤에 감정이 상해있고 본인들도 불안한 상태에서(일부는 어느정도 인종차별적 부분도 섞여있는, 동양인이 스팀을 소유한다는 부분에서 오는 감정 일수도 있구요) 언어장벽으로 인한 오해도 깊어보이네요..
A를 이야기 하면 C나 F를 답하는 식인 것 같아요.
스스로 인지하지 못하는 사이 반대쪽도 일부 그럴수도 있겠지요..
공감대를 이루고 소프트포크 하신다고 고생이 많으세요.. 이미 발생한 일이기에 양쪽이 각자의 발전을 위해 최선을 다하고 좋은 접점에서 만나면 좋으련만..쉽지 않은 것 같습니다. 많은 것을 느끼게 하는 일련의 일들입니다.

I read some comments that posted on the soft fork announcement and other ones that are relevant to recent hive and steem issue. I felt that many Steemians and Hiveans who supports old witnesses were angry and just looking at what they want to see. I am a sort fo newbie, so was not biased, I think.I guess they may be hurt from certain reasons and also there seem to be a language and culture barrier between english and other language sides. and some steemians seem to talk racism related comments emotionally.One side talk about an issue “A” and then the other side talks on “C” or “F”..Anyway now the hard fork, whatever it is, happened. I appreciate recent hard work of witnesses and also the effort of old witnesses to develop steem community and blockchain. I hope both sides would make quantum jump on blockchain and development and then meet again on certain very productive point. Is it impossible to have this my hope come true?

05.04.2020 13:59
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역시 도네킴님이십니다. 수고 많으셨습니다. 근데 오타 난 쟤 어쩔 ㅋㅋㅋㅋ

05.04.2020 21:45
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수고 많으셨습니다.
감사합니다.

06.04.2020 05:32
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리스팀합니다!

06.04.2020 09:13
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06.04.2020 09:50
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You happen to be the worst hypocrite here. You lack any morals. You are justifying the same actions you've been speaking against. Have some shame for once. I have been watching you closely for weeks. You keep changing the narrative to suit your agenda but guess what this is all going to come crashing down in weeks. Just watch and see. For the simple fact that you liar unproked and you're manipulating your community members. Shame on you

당신은 여기서 최악의 위선자입니다. 도덕이 부족합니다. 당신은 당신이 말했던 것과 같은 행동을 정당화하고 있습니다. 한 번 부끄러운 줄 아세요. 몇 주 동안 당신을 면밀히 지켜 보았습니다. 당신은 당신의 의제에 맞게 이야기를 계속 바꾸지 만 이것이 몇 주 안에 무너질 것이라고 추측합니다. 보고 만보십시오. 간단하게 거짓말을하지 않고 거짓말을하고 커뮤니티 회원을 조작하고 있다는 사실입니다. 부끄러운 줄 알아

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07.04.2020 17:51
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그 와중에 주소 오타 웃기네요 ㅋㅋ

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