How Smartlands Scammed Me


Before telling the story I need to point some things.

  1. A year ago I took part in many bounties, first of all, to better understand the market. While the percentage of scam was may be around 15-30% it's still not 90% as some people like to repeat the overused phrase that "90% of ICOs are scam". Many other projects paid their tokens even though tokens do not cost much now, but we know that ICO brings high risks.
  2. I don't state that Smartlands are scam, as I know they paid some people who took part in bounty. That's even worse to be in the number of "losers" so it means somebody probably took my tokens..
  3. I wouldn't write this article if not rude Smartlands' employees behavior, who not only ignored me, but banned from Telegram for just asking question.

While some companies state something like "we consider our bounty participants as investors", Smartlands show how not to do it. As from supporter I turned to "hater" but I was waiting long time for their response but got none, the only thing I received was ban on facebook.

Screenshot proof that I have wallet on Smartlands
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I'm not influencer in crypto world, but I have some thousands of crypto followers on Steemit, Twitter and other social networks. Only 1 e-mail response something like "We are sorry, you are unbanned on telegram, we can't send you tokens for ... reason, but we are happy that you use our wallet" would save my time from writing this post and I would be at least neutral towards this company..

So that's how it started - I took part in bounty and when it was over bounty participants received this e-mail:
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Please keep in mind that no dates were indicated, they didn't provide any time-frame to claim your tokens.

For long time SLT was not listed, but in a while I'm rechecking bounties (as sometimes tokens are locked for a long period, some tokens were paid in more than half a year, or almost in a year)
So as soon as I created Stellar wallet (I created on it on Smartlands specifically) I wrote to them.

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Yes, I understand that Smartlands (SLT) rose in price (you can check latest price here https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/smartlands/) so it is around 16.7 SLT is around $50 as I write this post and at the highest times it was around $100.

But I didn't get response and I saw that people from Bitcointalk thread didn't receive their tokens too (even though they wrote long time before me)

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I saw that bounty thread is inactive so I wrote in ANN thread. From my experience when project is growing actively after ICO sometimes you can address community and they will speak with you. So I wrote there

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And then again in a big time period

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I was advised to contact them in telegram, so I did it and was banned.

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I was advised to write to Victor, so I did it

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While some people in Smartlands telegram were really friendly some time later, I discovered that I'm banned there

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But even after that I wrote to them by e-mail and as you can see - several months passed after I wrote to them...

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I think that's the inappropriate attitude towards customer
I don't expect neither tokens nor apology from Smartlands (although they owe me both)
I just want to show you, my friends and readers an example of how companies should not act.
Moreover, if only 1 person was scammed if only for few bucks - why not to mention it? ...


Comments 14


Привіт ще раз! За посто проголосую, щоб підтримати саме тебе, але з основною думкою посту не погоджуюсь.
Написав у пошту вже, але повторю тут.
Насправді, що я знаю про проект:

  1. команда реальна,
  2. постійно є оновлення в блогах, твіттері,
  3. Є рух по проекту
  4. Коріння проекту - з України (особисто не знаю)

Це каже про те, що вони - далеко не скам. На падаючому ринку, після завершення ICO - скамери: 1 припиняють діяльність, 2. максимально швидко зливають всі свої токени по "свіжим цінам", чим вбивають монету в підлогу.
Наразі, монети виросли в ціні.

Я теж бувало, щось не те робив у якихось проектах, але коли не отримував за то монети, розумів - є об*єктивна реальність.

25.01.2019 11:19
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@mir так стаття ж називається "How Smartlands Scammed Me" - я не казав що вони скаманули всіх, дехто як от ти та ще пару людей на форумі отримали токени. Яка кількість отримала, яка ні - я не знаю, дехто точно ще не отримав. Пост перш за все про те, що не треба себе вести по-хамськи і на рівномі місці додавати собі негативу

25.01.2019 11:34
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@flod Знаю точно, що я спочатку не хотів отримувати - не хотів пересилати монети Стеллар на незнайому біржу. А потім - віришив, що ок. Я не пам*ятаю, але, здається, що були вказані терміни, за які тре встигнути отримати свої монети.

25.01.2019 11:44
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@mir я переглядав, в е-мейлі і ніде не було термінів

25.01.2019 11:53
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@mir до речі + не бачу, але це й не так важливо, там основна дискусія і так на Реддіті https://www.reddit.com/r/Stellar/comments/ajhysc/why_smartlands_is_treating_customers_bad/

25.01.2019 11:37
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@flod Дякую за корегування) Я ж то тут, то в пошту пишу. Відповів і не лайкнув. Виправив) Дякую! =)

25.01.2019 11:42
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Додам про реальність проекта і високу ймовірність "НЕ СКАМНОСТІ" проекта: https://jobs.dou.ua/companies/smartlands/vacancies/64339/

17 июля 2018
Digital Marketing Manager (вакансия неактивна)
Киев
Необходимые навыки
2+ years of experience.
Fluent English (advanced) written and verbal. Flawless spelling and grammar.
Experience with Google Analytics, Facebook Insights and other web-analytics tools.
Experience of managing ads in social networks (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Telegram, LinkedIn, etc.).
Excellent communication skills.
Excellent multitasking skills.
Strategic thinker, independent problem-solving skills.

Будет плюсом
Experience with Bitcointalk, Reddit, Steemit, Medium and other cryptocurrency related
platforms will be a plus.

Предлагаем
The full-time job in a cozy office at a central part of Kiev.
Compensation
Would be an early employee in a fast-growing startup, with strong backers and advisors
A rare opportunity to consolidate or acquire professional skills by the highest international standards
Strong career prospects in a fast-growing startup that embraces digital nomadism and
internationally scalable company.
Full-time/part-time options are available.
Don’t miss an opportunity to join the most disruptive industry!
Kindly send your CV to hr@smartlands.io and specify the vacancy name in the topic
We are looking for a community manager to help manage and grow our communities.

Обязанности
Implement campaigns, including ad copywriting, keywords selection and expansion to drive traffic from Google and other paid channels.
Setup web analytics tracking for the websites and landing pages.
Analyze campaigns performance data and suggest improvements.
Track and improve ROI of paid campaigns.
A/B testing and improvement of traffic generation tactics.
Interest and/or knowledge of cryptocurrency, blockchain technology of advantage.
Social media marketing.

О проекте
We are an established tech company that connects real economy and blockchain to create
new exciting opportunities for companies and investors. On our platform investor can
create of low-risk tokens, secured by real, profitable assets in a real economy, establish an
appropriate infrastructure and framework for token offerings protecting investors from major risks.
Smartlands is built on the Stellar network and employs advanced blockchain technology
with fast, cheap secure transactions and extended capabilities.

Job Summary
Engage and support conversations in communities related to cryptocurrencies, Blockchain,
financial technologies, tech investment etc. Responsible for planning, development, and
implementation of all Smartland’s community communications and public relations
activities. Creation and writing of support content materials for key Smartland’s channels in
the area of the future banking, cryptocurrencies and blockchain, digital assets for the real
economy sector, marketing of the investment.

25.01.2019 11:23
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@mir ясно, ну це стара вакансія, можливо в них офіс в Україні. На жаль і в Україні вистачає і скамерів, і просто жлобів, які не вміють нормально спілкуватись. Я ж не кажу, що проект нереальний, просто хтось привласнив мої токени, і навіть не це головне - забанили в Телеграмі, тобто повністю створили негатавне враження в мене, пост і про те якраз як не треба робити.

25.01.2019 11:32
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@flod Еееее.. Семе тому її і переслав)
Вакансію стврили пізнійше ICO, що вказує наміри.
А десь є стаття про них українською. Вони - з наших, але - пішли в іншу юридиуцію через відсутність нормативн. бази в Україні.

25.01.2019 11:46
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@mir на сайті компанії досить багато людей з різних країн https://smartlands.io/company/ наприклад литовських імен декілька. ну можливо вони і це пост побачать - то прочитають твою думку

25.01.2019 11:55
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Как еще можно потерять свои монеты. Вот еще такая тема бывает - /ru--kriptovalyuty/@mir/pro-delisting-kriptoaktivov-i-bezopasnost-kriptoaktivov-kriptonovosti-i-kriptopraktika-ot-mir

27.01.2019 15:00
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@mir дякую за інформацію

30.01.2019 15:54
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@flod на щастя!)

30.01.2019 16:43
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